newborn with skin issues - she's gone

[elevan]

elevan, would she have to use the pills or would feeding a good quality live culture yogurt be enough?

Yeah, maybe.

Another idea would be to add a Diamond V product. To squeeze out the bad yeast with good yeast, like we do with probiotics which is what AZO is, Lactobacillius. It also contains mistletoe which can cause abortions. Yeast has to have sugar to survive on so, no mollasses for this kiddo for a while.
Yeast and deficiency don't have to be seperate. Yeast can be opportunistic or it can be causing deficiency by using up nutrients.
What I'm not buying though is yeast iches, badly, just ask my little dog. He scatched continuously during an attack before we got a handle on it.

Yeast is often very opportunistic. But it doesn't always itch.

 

[peachick]

elevan, would she have to use the pills or would feeding a good quality live culture yogurt be enough?

Yeah, maybe.

Another idea would be to add a Diamond V product. To squeeze out the bad yeast with good yeast, like we do with probiotics which is what AZO is, Lactobacillius. It also contains mistletoe which can cause abortions. Yeast has to have sugar to survive on so, no mollasses for this kiddo for a while.
Yeast and deficiency don't have to be seperate. Yeast can be opportunistic or it can be causing deficiency by using up nutrients.
What I'm not buying though is yeast iches, badly, just ask my little dog. He scatched continuously during an attack before we got a handle on it.

Yeast is often very opportunistic. But it doesn't always itch.

Well the hair loss around her mouth is starting to crust over again ....damn.
But her behavior is good... she almost acts like she feels good. (not great but good)
I spoke with the pharmacist yesterday. Was rather interesting about some of the over the counter skin treatments.
It looks like Im going to try different products on different parts of babys skin, so see what gets results.
yeast cream on the ears, hydrocortisone on front legs, Lamisil on back legs, neosporin around her mouth
GEEEZ

 

[Ms. Research]

Sorry to hear Baby is still having issues. Hoping you find something that helps.

K

 

[ksalvagno]

I just thought of another cream - NuStock. That works great for a lot of skin issues along with the Camelid Skin Mix. I know you can get both at Light Livestock Supply but I would think you could get NuStock other places too.

 

[Stacykins]

The symptoms this little goat has fits Biotin (vitamin B7) deficiency. Skin problems that look crusty (like cradle cap on a baby) loss of hair particularly around the eyes and mouth, lack of muscle tone and incoordination. Because Biotin is responsible for fat and sugat sythesis it could theoretically cause blindness from a diebetic type condition and would definately affect growth and developement...

The Biotin needs B5 with it to work. The nice thing about this is that B complex is cheap and harmless and impossible to OD on. Might help couldn't hurt...

Unless you get the B-Complex gel from Jeffers, or have a bottle of the injectable, you can crush 1 Vitamin B-Complex tablet meant for people, but you will need to crush a B-1 in order for the combination of the different B vitamins to be at correct levels for a goat.

I was browsing around on Caprine Supply last night, they have the injection version of the vitamin B complex in stock , while Jeffers does not.

Peachick, I hope your baby gets better, we're all rooting for her!

 

[peachick]

ohh the injectable b complex sound great Thanks!

I snapped a few photos this morning... so you guys can see what Im dealing with. I just got off the phone with the breeder.... he is as stumped as anyone... but he feels its a thyroid issue.
I dunno..... lab test should be here tomorrow.


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[wannacow]

Poor little thing... She needs lots of cuddles! Hope you get a handle on this. Thank you for trying so hard.

 

[Hillsvale]

my ram lamb had an eye that looked like pink eye then clouded over like that... couple shots of LA Pen fixed him up...

Poor girl looks a bit ratty and I suppose the "greasy" bits are your glopping stuff on trying to make her better.

Two things that have worked really well for me is a little tub of miracle cream from Lee Valley, my son gets really severe psoriasia on his hands... cracks and bleeds but this stuff really helped.

I get scaley bits on my shins and thighs in the winter, eczema ... I use a vasaline type antibiotic cream for that.

I agree that she has some sort of deficiency ... and her scales do look "psoriasis like"... poor baby.

Good luck

 

[cmjust0]

Hmm..

Psoriasis is an autoimmune disorder.. An autoimmune disorder would kinda makes sense here as it's not something the animal would "catch" per se, and this baby obviously hasn't had time to catch anything.. In looking for autoimmune skin disorders of veterinary medicine, something called "pemphigus foliaceus" popped up. Doesn't exactly look like what your baby goat has, but it does tell us that it's not uncommon for animal to have autoimmune disorders of the skin.. Having said that, I'd definitely keep autoimmune disorders on the short list..

I wonder if at some point, if only to rule it out, your vet might start this baby on a round of dexamethasone to hamper its immune system..? If it improved, you'd have a pretty good idea that it was autoimmune in nature.. Of course, anytime you start one on steroids like dex - especially one with what looks to me like a crack-prone dermatological condition - you'd have to accompany it with antibiotics, but a vet would know that..

 

[autumnprairie]

poor baby, I hope you get answers soon.