Nigerian goat feed questions for soon to be owner if the info needed is found

Pearce Pastures

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How much water does goat go through a day?

Mine go through about a gallon a day, and more when they are lactating. I put out three 5 gallon buckets daily, and then if one bucket DARES to get a piece of hay in it and therefore making it poison in the goat's opinion, they still have other options for drinking.

How much grain is the maximum before bloting?

Grain and pelleted feed are really not absolutely needed, pregnant or not. In my practice, I do not change the feeding routine much at all for the pregnant does because too many extra calories can add weight to the dam and kids that complicate delivery.

Here, kids that are under a year get about 2 measuring cups full of Noble goat feed per day. Lactating does also get about that amount plus what they eat while I milk and as much pelleted alfalfa as they want.

For the most part males do not get anything other than hay. During this harsh winter, I did put them on a small ration of feed to help them maintain condition but cut it off as soon as the snow had melted.

How much pellet feed would be needed a day if not using hay?
Can pellet feed and hay be used together or would it be best to feed on different days?

Again here, all they can eat hay every single day and you will have to make the decision on whether or not you use feed/grain. Whatever you do decide, keeping a goat's diet consistent is important. If you are going to give feed, do it daily.

Side note too---don't use a sweetened feed.

Minerals and other expenses

1) VETTING: Find a vet before you get goats. Ask them how much they charge for farm visits, how much and IF they will let you bring goats to them for exams, how much they charge for fecal exams, how much they charge for vaccinations, and how much they charge for emergency calls.

You should run fecal tests a few times per year at the least because parasite management is incredibly important. Treating goats will just a random medication, often called rotation deworming, is a very bad practice that effects everyone due to the parasite resistance. It also effects your pocket book and your goats since just if you are not treating the correct parasite, the cost of the medication was lost without any benefit.

2) Vaccinations: If you want to avoid the cost of a vet, you can learn to do these yourself. Once or twice yearly, you will want to at least vaccinate with CD&T, an inexpensive preventative for a few horrible way for an animal to die.

3) Equipment: Start up items like hoof trimmers, feeders, buckets, strong fencing can add up. As you get more into the care of the goats, you will likely develop quite a collection of care items and may need a place to store them as well.

4) Yes, you should provide your goats with minerals constantly if you want to keep them in good health (which will save money in the long run). We use mineral blocks and loose minerals. Just be sure that if you get blocks, select ones made for goats (they are soft and are have the levels of copper you really need for them to be healthy).
 

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I have three Nigerian Dwarf females all from the same litter. They were born on 4/23/14 and recently my vet told me to only feed them hay. Question is how much? I let them browsing the evening where there is plenty to choose from. Their pen has leaves falling into it this time a year as well. My problem is they all look fat. I only give one flake of hay a day because if I free feed the hay I think they will blow up. Should I go back to grain? Will that limit their hay and browsing binging? So confused... Help anyone...
 

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@PCorsetto
Feeding practices will vary.
@Pearce Pastures gives great advice.
Our practices are somewhat different and change through the season.
It is not good for goats to get fat. So there is always a concern there.
Our nigies use to get 1 cup per day. We have changed that over time. During the months where there is plenty of forage available they do not get feed unless they are getting milked. Come winter everyone will get a small amount 1/2 -1 cup (Nigies). We do this more for nutritional balance. Our intact bucks get fed during rut (fall/winter) and it is individually based in the spring/summer.
Our goats have always had hay 24/7. This year however we fill all the hay feeders in the am and if they finish it all then they can go out and eat off the land! Winter we will not have land for them to eat off so they will be back to hay 24/7.

Can you post some pics of your does? One so we can see their condition and two because we LOVE pics!

We are strong proponents of finding a good vet also! Having said that not all livestock vets know goats. Also when working with vets it is rare to find any that agreee on much of anything. Each farm will need to tweak their own management plan. It isn't an across the board "this is what you feed and how much".
We also do not do sweet feed.

and WELCOME TO BYH!!!!!!!!!:frow :welcome
 

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Thank you for your quick response. I will try to get some current picture's soon for all to view.

So when you say you will fill the feeders with hay in the AM how much are you putting in you think? My feeder could take about 5 flakes but I fear the three of them would eat it all and explode... the hay I get it locally grown and they really like it. Plus their pen is on the edge of the woods and leaves are falling in the pen which they then eat. I do offer goat minerals as well as baking soda free for them. They are not yet 6 months. I don't want to starve them either but they seem to eat non stop.
 

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I couldn't begin to tell you. LOL
I have LOTS of goats and we have Standard breed Dairy goats and Meat goats and Mini's and Dwarfs.

Just an FYI- make sure the hay is not fescue. Fescue can cause complications during pregnancy, labor and delivery... just like in horses. Thickened placentas. Thickened cords, retained placentas.

Right now our goats are eating more than usual as it is getting colder here and they need to pack on a bit for the winter.

Do they have forage? More often than not goats can be lazy and will stay by the hay feeder rather than going out to the fields for food. :rolleyes: They think we are here to serve them! :\

Do they look fat to you?
 

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They do look fat to me. I let them forage most evenings. They love to get out and roam the property. I've actually cut down to one flake a day because 9 the falling leaves and foraging. 8 wonder if putting them back on some grain would calm their eating. We live in NH and it is starting to get cold at night too.
 

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What kind of hay are you feeding?
A full ruminen doesn't necessarily mean they are fat
But Nigerians can have that tendency
There is information on here on scoring body condition
 

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Good question. Not really sure what the hay actually is. The person I get it from has a large farm and he supplies to many farms in the area. He knows I'm feeding goats so it is a soft hay... I know, I'm still green at all this.

I would be interested in finding the score card for identifying their size. I know their is "hay belly" but their faces look a little puffy too.
 

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Good question. Not really sure what the hay actually is. The person I get it from has a large farm and he supplies to many farms in the area. He knows I'm feeding goats so it is a soft hay... I know, I'm still green at all this.

I would be interested in finding the score card for identifying their size. I know their is "hay belly" but their faces look a little puffy too.

You want see a picture of a fat Nigerian?
I have a thread under Breeds and Breeding Goats " is it that time of year again"
Clara Belle is 2 years old
She is over finished:)
 

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