Egg_Newton
Loving the herd life
I would be concerned with vitamin deficiency. Do you have loose minerals available for them? Do you live in a selenium deficient area? Use copper supplements?
Nubian Buck Dying,... (Was lost, rest of herd?)
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Goat Whisperer
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20kidsonhill
True BYH Addict
no, we don't worry about Corid and Thiamin. I have not had a single case of polio on the farm in 15 years of using it. But I do follow the directions and only give it for 5 or 6 days, you can drench her with it as well, according to the directions.
20kidsonhill
True BYH Addict
I would worm her with a white wormer such as Valbazen or synanthic. and treat for coccidiosis and check her ketones, or drench her for 5 days with magic drench to see if that kicks her system back into gear. Of course no amount of magic drench is going to reverse a heavy worm load that is not treated.
Then if continued problems I would recheck the fecal and then do blood work for Johne's disease.
babsbag
Herd Master
Her twins are on her too, which makes it really hard on her. I am hoping they will start eating hay soon and give her a break. They are about 5 weeks so soon. I will wean them ASAP. I did worm her with Ivermectin last week.
I will get a fecal done this weekend and see what we see. I should check all my herd for Johne's just to say that I did. I don't see any indication of it in any other goats and I run a pretty closed herd. This doe was born on my farm; as are most of my goats.
I will get a fecal done this weekend and see what we see. I should check all my herd for Johne's just to say that I did. I don't see any indication of it in any other goats and I run a pretty closed herd. This doe was born on my farm; as are most of my goats.
20kidsonhill
True BYH Addict
You can get your 5 week old kids on creep feed to get them going better for an earlier weaning and to give mom a break. I don't find Ivermectin to be all that great of a wormer and not all that well rounded of a wormer. A white wormer like synanthic or valbazen may cover more problems. I am not saying fecals are a total waste of time, but if it comes back negative I still do not rule out a parasite problems, including coccidiosis. WE have had several fecals come back negative and the vet said worm and treat anyway and then the goat got better. Fecals are only a small sample, it can be hit and miss. Now if the fecal does show something, that can be helpful for sure. Like if it comes back loaded with coccidiosis. But if it shows nothing, I don't assume it is totally accurate.
Southern by choice
Herd Master
X2 20 kids... if nothing on a fecal I re-run them always.
babsbag
Herd Master
Working on the creep. Just penned them up tonight to give mom a chance to eat and sleep without them being literally "attached". These bucklings are good size, haven't missed a meal, but they are on mom every chance they get; perhaps she is having a hard time keeping up the supply.
Have never used a white wormer. Being that I have dry lot pasture, especially this winter, worms have never been a big issue in the past, doesn't mean they aren't now. The doe looked good right after freshening, and during her pregnancy; I think the nursing is just taking its toll. She has alfalfa in front of her at all times, and now grain, which she isn't crazy about...silly goat....my dairy stock would kill for that kind of feed. But her coat looks like crap. I have also been giving her noble goat pellets, a milk parlor 16% grain, kelp, and loose minerals. Guess I will go get some other wormer.
How do you convince a 5 week old kid that pellets are good? They are "playing" with the hay, but that is all.
Have never used a white wormer. Being that I have dry lot pasture, especially this winter, worms have never been a big issue in the past, doesn't mean they aren't now. The doe looked good right after freshening, and during her pregnancy; I think the nursing is just taking its toll. She has alfalfa in front of her at all times, and now grain, which she isn't crazy about...silly goat....my dairy stock would kill for that kind of feed. But her coat looks like crap. I have also been giving her noble goat pellets, a milk parlor 16% grain, kelp, and loose minerals. Guess I will go get some other wormer.
How do you convince a 5 week old kid that pellets are good? They are "playing" with the hay, but that is all.
Roll farms
Spot Master
I'm hearing Johne's is getting to be a bigger and bigger problem in the goat world. 
babsbag
Herd Master
I'm hearing Johne's is getting to be a bigger and bigger problem in the goat world.
That is frightening and all the more reason to keep a closed herd when possible. Non of my goats have come from unknowns. I have had a few new ones in the last few years, but all from herds that I know. Doesn't make me safe, but buying off of CL would scare me more.
I should look into testing them all.
