OK, I am probably stupid, but I brought home 4 piglets last night

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THANK YOU! That's the best advice I think I've gotten so far, it's very good sensible advice. Everyone on my local facebook farming board has been telling me to get them unimilk or hog milk replacer and I kept saying, but but, I have raw goat's milk, that's GOT to be better than processed formula! But they insisted that the goat milk was not good for them. I've been giving it to them anyway and praying it would be enough. I've been adding some half and half to it, even though I milk my goat right into the container I'm feeding the pigs from, doesn't get fresher or more whole fat than that! But I figured the extra fat would be good for them. I also fed the older piglet some puppy kibble b/c I thought it made sense to get the extra calories and protein into the poor little bag of bones. But they said no, no, no! You'll make her too fat feeding her that crap! It's not like I plan on feeding it forever, it's just to put some weight on her and get her some good growing protein....

I fed the 2 girls who are in the barn and doing well some leftovers from brunch---sausage (I know I know, terrible! but good fresh protein! LOL) eggs, zucchini, and fried potatoes. I just brought the bowl of leftovers down, milked my goat on top of it and put it down for them. They ate the whole thing. They can't weigh more than 10 lbs put together, and there were enough leftovers there to feed 2 of my kids! I just gave them another bowl of milk before bed, then I left them with some grain covered in milk. Maybe they didn't finish it, it's possible some chickens got in there and helped, but they had already drunk all of the milk before I even left the barn! Anyway, the 2 girls are up and about and even the tiny skinny girl (the boy's sister) is strong enough now to squeal like crazy and try to push the bigger one out of the food dish. It's pretty funny!

The poor little boy still isn't doing well. All 3 still have diarrhea, but this little guy is skin and bones, literally. I know the other 2 are also way too thin, but he is like a skeleton with some skin and hair. :( He's very weak. He has started to recognize me and gets really excited and puts his feet up on the side of the bin I have him in in the house when he hears or sees me coming. :) I got a baby bottle for him. I put 5oz raw goat's milk, 1 oz evaporated whole milk from a can (I figured the concentrated calories would be good for him) plus a small quirt of corn syrup and maybe a Tbs of half and half. I'm just trying to pack as many calories as I can into what little he is able to take before he gets full, and it isn't much, maybe 1/2-1 oz max at a time. He's still not sucking, but he is happy to see me and after I cut an x in the nipple, he is more able to get some of the milk. He chews on the nipple and swallows. He's doing pretty well with it and isn't making a mess anymore like he was earlier in the day before we got the hang of it. I hope he makes it. I think the girls are going to be ok as long as the diarrhea doesn't get any worse. But this little guy is pretty weak. He's doing a heck of a lot better than he was even this morning, but still not great. He probably drank about 4 oz of the bottle I made up for him today. Not enough, but it's a start!

I'll make sure to pick up some plain yogurt tomorrow at the store to use to make some more out of my goat's milk. I haven't made yogurt in years, but I remember how, it's very easy. No problem! Great idea! And while it's culturing, I can feed them the rest of the container. I have been sprinkling some of my goat's probiotic powder on their food, but yogurt is much better for getting the good bacteria in, like you said. And it also makes the milk more digestible, which is what these poor little things really need.
 

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Oh, and their little noses are cold and wet today, all 3 of them! I haven't touched a pig in so so long, I completely forgot their cute piggy noses are supposed to be cold and wet like a dog's. They were warm and dry yesterday and the day I got them, but cold and wet today, so at least I know they are hydrated again!
 

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I just brought the bowl of leftovers down, milked my goat on top of it and put it down for them. They ate the whole thing.
Wow! That's a great sign :) It is SO much easier to feed them when they can help themselves & at this point I wouldn't worry too much about what exactly they are getting as long as it is wholesome. A pig's digestive system is very much like our own so they do well on balanced meals :) If you are eating healthily then sounds like so will they!

Do you have spare eggs? If so, boil some up shells & all & mash them with a potato masher. Feed those to the pigs & that may well help stop their runs. We feed "mashed eggs" to our pigs every day with their grain. Eggs are a complete source of protein so very good for them. Of course fresh milk is really good for them too. We don't have spare milk at this time but when we finally get a milking machine here & we can milk more of our cows we will be feeding milk to all our pigs also. Dog Kibble will not hurt them as a short term feed but once they are established wean them on to some pig feed. We feed a 15% non-medicated pellet here. Not sure what part of the country you are in but if you are in the northwestern states pigs do really well on rolled barley.

Once you have made your first batch of yogurt keep back about 2-3 tbsp from that batch once set & that will make the next one. Your "starter" will last for many many batches.

Sounds like the little boy has a strong will to live so if you can get some yogurt down him he could well make it.

Give yourself a pat on the back for all your effort paying off.

Liz
 

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Thanks for your help. Little Porkchop is dying. :( He was cold and limp when I went to get him out of his bin to feed him this morning. His little snout was purple. I got a hot water bottle and snuggled him under a blanket on the couch for a while and dribbled some warm milk into his mouth. He's oo weak to swallow. That was hours ago, and he's still holding on. :( I have him wrapped up in towels to stay warm, but it's obvious he's dying. He is limp and is just gasping for a breath every few seconds. I did my best. :(

On the bright side, the 2 girls are both doing fine. I was just outside trying to work on the electric fence, but I gave up b/c of the heat plus the sweat dripping onto my glasses was too annoying! I'm from up north, I hate and can't handle this heat and humidity! We're in North Carolina. Anyway, the girls were laying on each other in a patch of sun through the tree shade out in the goat pen. I can't figure out how they're getting out, but they're fine now that they're strong enough to run from the goats. ;) I fed them and they squealed and fought and both drank plenty of milk. :) They're going to be just fine I think. I haven't had a chance to make them some boiled eggs, but I will as soon as I've cooled off a little in here! I'm pretty sure I saw them eating some grass, too. :)
 

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Sorry to hear about the little guy:(
I'm glad the girls are doing much better. You're doing a great job!! They are very lucky to have you !:clap
 

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Thanks so much for your encouragement. Little Porkchop died about 2 hours ago, sadly. :( he seemed like he was doing so much better yesterday, I really thought he was going to be ok. Well, we fought the good fight, that's the best we can do.
 

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Last picture we have of Porkchop. My friend was over last night and thought it was cute how I was treating him like a baby. LOL
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This is how he was acting earlier in the day when I thought he was doing better and was going to make it.
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Poor little fella! You did a great job and did what you could for him. I am glad that the others are holding on. Congratulations!
 

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awwww shucks, I was hoping the little dude would make it. :( How are the girls doing today?? I hope they keep improving and pull through. I can't believe that breeder would take them off of their momma so young. :/
 

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The girls are doing great! They recognize my slip on shoes as the person who brings them food. If I wear those they follow me around, but if I wear my boots, they run away from me like I'm trying to kill them! Lol.

The little one from Porkchop's litter is already noticeably fatter. She nudges the tops of my feet until I feed them, it's pretty cute. She also squeals like crazy and holds her own in the food dish with the bigger girl who is like 3 times her size. But they are both out and about exploring every day and checking ot the goats to see if they're eating anything good. They're doing great! Their names are Bacon and Sausage, but I'm not sure which is which. My kids named them, I had nothing to do with it. My dh thinks its pretty funny though. They're turning into real farm kids finally after several years of tears when it came time to butcher a chicken or rabbit. Lol
 
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