Pitbulls killed 200 goats

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Pitbulls aren't a problem provided they are trained. When dogs are allowed to run in a pack, they can be dangerous.

A friend of mine lost a goat to a small dog (less than 35 lbs) and a medium dog (less than 50 lbs). A few years back, a wolf pack slaughtered 100 sheep here in Montana and hardly ate any of them. When people realize that any dog, especially an untrained one, can be dangerous to livestock, we've made headway. I don't trust my dogs with livestock, but I own a breed that has a high prey drive. OTOH, I do trust my dogs with people, including children, provided they are supervised.
 

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This whole "news" story seems fishy to me.... First, I am inclined to believe that the article is missing a lot of key information. Was it 200 goats killed at one location in one incident, or is this an ongoing problem in a certain area/community, and is the pack comprised of all pitbulls, no pitbulls, some pitbulls? Has anyone seen the pack in the act of goat killing or is this just a assumption, even the article says "Pack MAY be responsible for killing 200 goats." What does that even mean? Does it mean, the dog pack is in the area and they are assuming they killed all 200 goats? Does it mean the pack has been seen in the act in one or more incidents, and they are extrapolating that the remaining goat deaths are from the dog pack? Have they eliminated other predators from this equation? If this was a one time incident, I am kind of surprised that someone had 200 goats and did not notice (for whatever reason), that a dog pack was savaging the goats, it would take some time for even 15 dogs to kill 200 goats, and likely there would have been some commotion.

I guess my real point here is that news reporting (especially on the internet) is abominably bad nowadays, it's like they assume that the readers are idiots and won't notice how little care or time or effort they put into their articles, if you can call them that.
 

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BHOBCFarms said:
This whole "news" story seems fishy to me.... First, I am inclined to believe that the article is missing a lot of key information. Was it 200 goats killed at one location in one incident, or is this an ongoing problem in a certain area/community, and is the pack comprised of all pitbulls, no pitbulls, some pitbulls? Has anyone seen the pack in the act of goat killing or is this just a assumption, even the article says "Pack MAY be responsible for killing 200 goats." What does that even mean? Does it mean, the dog pack is in the area and they are assuming they killed all 200 goats? Does it mean the pack has been seen in the act in one or more incidents, and they are extrapolating that the remaining goat deaths are from the dog pack? Have they eliminated other predators from this equation? If this was a one time incident, I am kind of surprised that someone had 200 goats and did not notice (for whatever reason), that a dog pack was savaging the goats, it would take some time for even 15 dogs to kill 200 goats, and likely there would have been some commotion.

I guess my real point here is that news reporting (especially on the internet) is abominably bad nowadays, it's like they assume that the readers are idiots and won't notice how little care or time or effort they put into their articles, if you can call them that.
Yes!! Very strong points!

Not to mention how hard it is to ID a breed, let alone a breed running wild in a pack. It could have been a whole pack of mutts, but then no one would read it because the media monster "pit bull" words are not mentioned!
 

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BlondeSquirrel04 said:
BHOBCFarms said:
This whole "news" story seems fishy to me.... First, I am inclined to believe that the article is missing a lot of key information. Was it 200 goats killed at one location in one incident, or is this an ongoing problem in a certain area/community, and is the pack comprised of all pitbulls, no pitbulls, some pitbulls? Has anyone seen the pack in the act of goat killing or is this just a assumption, even the article says "Pack MAY be responsible for killing 200 goats." What does that even mean? Does it mean, the dog pack is in the area and they are assuming they killed all 200 goats? Does it mean the pack has been seen in the act in one or more incidents, and they are extrapolating that the remaining goat deaths are from the dog pack? Have they eliminated other predators from this equation? If this was a one time incident, I am kind of surprised that someone had 200 goats and did not notice (for whatever reason), that a dog pack was savaging the goats, it would take some time for even 15 dogs to kill 200 goats, and likely there would have been some commotion.

I guess my real point here is that news reporting (especially on the internet) is abominably bad nowadays, it's like they assume that the readers are idiots and won't notice how little care or time or effort they put into their articles, if you can call them that.
Yes!! Very strong points!

Not to mention how hard it is to ID a breed, let alone a breed running wild in a pack. It could have been a whole pack of mutts, but then no one would read it because the media monster "pit bull" words are not mentioned!
I also forgot to mention that if it is only goats being targeted, shouldn't they consider the possibility that this is the work of a Chupacabra?
 

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Oooh that makes me mad. Pits are my FAVORITE breed, they are nothing more than big goofy teddy bears, our's sleeps, oh probably on average, about 19 hours a day. We have a little doeling living in the house right now, I get worried about him licking and cuddly her too much, same with the cats. He would never hurt a thing. I think about how I would be scared of a pit bull barking at me aggressively, but then I'm like "wait, I would be scared of any dog barking at me aggressively!" I hate it when people say "oh I can't believe you can turn a dog around like that", as if pits are born with a desire to kill human beings and other living things. I don't really believe that article, it's so short and gives so few details.
 

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Training and raising pitbulls the right way is one thing...the two after my sheep and then me, got blasted by my shotgun...these pits were bred and trained and raised as fighting dogs...shortly after my encounter with them on my property, big local news...owner and others were busted for a dog fighting ring. I will not be taken out by any dog on my own property without defense, nor any of my critters. Really horrible that people do this for money...so very, very cruel. They all got jail time. And that owner of the dogs I shot at is no longer renting a trailer down the road...trailer was hauled out and it was a happy day in the neighbourhood.
 

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2011 Dog Fatality Stats

I did a little bit of research on my own in the last couple minutes. Look, I'm not Pit Bull hater but I can't stand the people that are so blind to the fact that these dogs can be, and are in many cases, very dangerous dogs. No, not all and really not even most of them probably but Pits are a big issue and of all dog breeds are the most unstable and most dangerous. And don't tell me it's only the owners or the training or whatever. The breed is very much to blame.

In the last 5 years (including this year, so 2009-2013) there have been 145 fatalities from dogs in the US. Of those 145 deaths, 87 are the result of Pit Bull and Pit Bull crosses. That's 60%. So of the hundreds of breeds of dogs in the US 60% of the deaths are the result of this one breed of dog. Just a little lopsided. Only once in the last 5 years have Pit Bulls been responsible for less 50% of the deaths in a single year. That was in 2009 when Pit Bulls killed only 14 of the 30 people killed by dogs that year. In 2013 alone they have killed 13 of the 14 people that have died this year.

Let me just read a few descriptions.

Christian Gormanous was 4 years old when on Jan 19, 2013 he was killed by a Pit Bull when he climbed over a fence and got too close to the neighbor's tethered dog.

Tarilyn Bowles was 3 weeks old when on Oct 4, 2012 she was mauled by the family dog (Pit Bull)when left briefly unattended.

Mya Maeda was 11 days old when on Oct 3, 2011 she was dragged from her bassinet and killed by the family dog, a Pit Bull mix.


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