Poor kids got dehorned, problems now

[SheepGirl]

Swelling looks like a milk goiter.

 

[babsbag]

3-4 weeks is WAY to long to disbudd by burning and surgical removal would be the only way and the way yours look and the description you gave sounds pretty normal for a dehorning. It is not easy or pretty and takes FOREVER to heal. I have one to do that I just didn't get done as a baby but will wait until winter so no flies. I had an adult buck done once to remove a really bad scur, it was a bad experience but the scur was gone.

I am surprised there are scurs after that procedure.

Not sure about the lump, the location would have me a little concerned. I would watch for an abscess and test for CL. Do you have a history on the herd that she came from.?

 

[SkyWarrior]

Ugh. Dehorning is incredibly painful, bloody, and generally awful. Most experts recommend against it, which is why I'm surprised your vet recommended it. I guess that's his procedure.

Basically, you're stuck with what was done. It takes forever to heal, as @babsbag says. My guess isn't CL but maybe some sort of abscess. Have the vet, or another one check it out.

 

[babsbag]

Dehorning is HORRIBLE. I am beyond kicking myself since I have one I have to do. She is a beautiful kid, her mom milks like a champ, and she is friendly, all traits I admire. I tried to disbud her but was just learning and really didn't do much other than deform the horns. My "cleanup my mess" friend was not available until it was too late so now she has horns, and misshapen ones at that. With an Alpine or Lamancha kid if I go beyond a week it is almost always too late to burn them off and bucklings may have to be done at 3-4 days.

 

[germanchickTX]

Swelling looks like a milk goiter.

Yes it does, but she is already 5 1/2-6 month old and long weaned. They also get Noble Goat and loose goat mineral, so she shouldn't have a iodine deficiency either.
Since she has no other symptoms and acts fine, I guess I will just wait and see...
Thanks!

 

[germanchickTX]

3-4 weeks is WAY to long to disbudd by burning and surgical removal would be the only way and the way yours look and the description you gave sounds pretty normal for a dehorning. It is not easy or pretty and takes FOREVER to heal. I have one to do that I just didn't get done as a baby but will wait until winter so no flies. I had an adult buck done once to remove a really bad scur, it was a bad experience but the scur was gone.

I am surprised there are scurs after that procedure.

Not sure about the lump, the location would have me a little concerned. I would watch for an abscess and test for CL. Do you have a history on the herd that she came from.?

No history on the herd (meat goat breeder). All I know is, that they are a Kiko/Boer mix,an oopsie breeding of still to young parent animals and that the mother didn't get any vaccines before kidding and supposedly didn't have enough milk for the two. That's how and why I got them with 3 days of age as goat milk replacer fed bottle babies.
Thanks

 

[germanchickTX]

Ugh. Dehorning is incredibly painful, bloody, and generally awful. Most experts recommend against it, which is why I'm surprised your vet recommended it. I guess that's his procedure.

Basically, you're stuck with what was done. It takes forever to heal, as @babsbag says. My guess isn't CL but maybe some sort of abscess. Have the vet, or another one check it out.

The vet said "inflamed lymph nodes"; with no other symptoms or change not to worry about just yet..."
Goat is doing fine, I guess I'll just wait and see...
Thanks

 

[babsbag]

Well the good news is that at 3 days old they aren't as likely to have been exposed to CL. I would still be worried as CL IS an inflamed lymph node. If it is do not let the abscess rupture in your fields or pens, it will contaminate the soil for just about forever, seriously.

Many many meat goats herds have CL, I would be very watchful.

 

[germanchickTX]

Well the good news is that at 3 days old they aren't as likely to have been exposed to CL. I would still be worried as CL IS an inflamed lymph node. If it is do not let the abscess rupture in your fields or pens, it will contaminate the soil for just about forever, seriously.

Many many meat goats herds have CL, I would be very watchful.

This swelling hasn't changed at all, is soft and it seems you can shift it a little around. She has this since weeks, if not month...
That's why I wonder, if the too tight bandage after the dehorning may have caused some damage. I wish I could upload the video how they were breathing and vocalizing with this bandage. It was plain awful; they sounded like hoarse chicken and like pneumonia...
Like I said before, this particular vet I won't be using anymore; he seemed to be afraid even of my horses (one previously abused one with stranger issues and one spoiled brat -not your average dead broke cowboy horses )...
What do you think?
Thxs!

 

[SkyWarrior]

The vet said "inflamed lymph nodes"; with no other symptoms or change not to worry about just yet..."
Goat is doing fine, I guess I'll just wait and see...
Thanks

Uh, does this vet know about CL? It inflames lymph nodes.