Porkchop48 kidding thread-Updated.Last one for while, did not go well.

porkchop48

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Well every one is doing good so far.

Did have some bad news along the way though. Kurt - the Alpine kidded friday night ( twin boys) and we lost them both. IT was down into the 20's and at 10ish she was fine. I went back out at 6 and found two dead kids. The one was huge - She was licking them both and crying. I tried bringing them inside and doing everything I can but I think I may have just been too late.

On a lighter note - I rubbed some of the the afterbirth onto the bottle babies and she has successfully taken them as her own. She is the herd queen so I know they will do great with the herd with her as their mom.

Presley my fainter is getting a nice udder going so I hope not too much longer with her and hoping for a better outcome and atleast one girl I can keep.
 

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porkchop48 said:
Well every one is doing good so far.

Did have some bad news along the way though. Kurt - the Alpine kidded friday night ( twin boys) and we lost them both. IT was down into the 20's and at 10ish she was fine. I went back out at 6 and found two dead kids. The one was huge - She was licking them both and crying. I tried bringing them inside and doing everything I can but I think I may have just been too late.

On a lighter note - I rubbed some of the the afterbirth onto the bottle babies and she has successfully taken them as her own. She is the herd queen so I know they will do great with the herd with her as their mom.

Presley my fainter is getting a nice udder going so I hope not too much longer with her and hoping for a better outcome and atleast one girl I can keep.
Oh, so sad, and I am very sorry you lost the 2 kids.

That was an ingenious idea for getting the other goat to take the 2 bottle babies. Smart move and I hope they do well.
 

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The bottle babies have continured to do great with their new mom. I had a goat sitter visit the first weekend they were together and she said she never would have known they were not hers. She has turned out to be a great mom. She is a keeper for sure.


Took 3 of the kids to be disbudded on friday. 2 more go next friday. I thought about buying the stuff to do it myself but being that two of them were going to be 4H goats I did not want to mess it up. Then I got the bill. 3 kids - disbudded, shots and a general check and my total bill was $30. Ok so for this year I will just let the vet do it. That even included a Lidocaine shot before the disbudding.. I still think I cried more than they did.


Moving on...

Presley my fainter is getting close. For being only 50ish lbs she is doing awesome. Nice big udder going. You can feel tiny babies or baby moving in her belly... Just one awesome doe please :fl Ok twins would be better but atleast one doe. Any does that she has I will be keeping. I noticed her udder is gettinn noticeably bigger daily and today it was just a bit tighter... Please please everything go well with her. She is about 18 months old and this is her FF.


Tut is also starting to build an udder. I do not care what Tuts has as long as every one makes it through ok. Tut is my first kid that was born here and a total luv bug. I am so nervous about her and want to make sure I am there.

Vango is the 3rd one coming up. Due some time in the next 2 weeksish. Nice udder going on her but she is so skittish I hope the closer she gets the more she calms down. Super goat was real flighty like Vango until she kidded so I hope the same goes for Vango. Hoping for some funky eared keepers from her.

Very very excited about these three and you all may just have to listen to me ramble and babble a bit the closer the get. Now if I could just find the gosh darn camera.
 

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Sorry about the lost ones :hugs

And YES...find your camera and make sure batteries are charged up...looking forward to your cute babies!!!!!
 

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Big ole storm coming... I am not opposed to walking through the snow to get to the barn if it means the girls will kid soon.

presley is getting close - Doing a lot of laying around, lots of good and a very nice udder.

Tut - Some goo. Udder getting noticeably bigger every day. Ligaments playing the hide and seek game.

Vango - The untouchable is becoming just a tad touchable. Udder is getting bigger daily and she is due around the 14th ( if she took on the first breeding).

I whine, whine and whine some more about waiting but I would really just be happy with healthy kids and moms. If the fainter has a doeling it will be kept. None of Tuts will be kept. IF vango has a no eared doeling it might be kept. Might be is the key word. I am trying to go more along the lines of boers and boer mixes but I guess we will see what every one has.

Still not sure about Kreature - She either has a long way to go or just never took.

Same with Steiner. Starting to pudge up a bit, so looks like more waiting.
 

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Soooo - I come home wednesday at lunch to check on every one. Tut had a swollen whoo ha, nice tight udder and no ligs. I put hubby on watch but he does have to work as well. All is fine at 2 pm when I go back to work, so I agree to work later than normal.

I leave work about 6 pm. I come home and decide to go straight to the barn after donning muck boots. I walk into the barn and find Tut down in her stall. She is not moving, legs straight out and tongue hanging out. :rant

I jump the stall gate ( not a pretty picture), she was in front of the gate. I see a head, 3 feet and something else black all trying to come out at the same time. I needed something to grab ahold of the legs. I have no towels all are being washed to get ready for kidding ( which I still thought I had a few days). What better to use than my work shirt. So off goes the shirt. No a pretty picture I might add. I grab the one set of feet to atleast have something to hold on to. I then realize that the second black thing I see is another head. I had thought the there was only one and it might have been folded. I try to push the second baby back in enough to get the 1st baby out. I finally get Tut to start pushing again. Up until now I was still not sure of the mom was still with me. I finally noticed a hint of a push from her and say Game on Tuts, lets get these babies out. I had no clue how long she had been like that. I finally get the first baby out which is the bigger of the two. Seems lifeless so I set it off to the side to get the second baby out. Both sacs had been broken and second baby had a bunch in her mouth.

Second baby had a foot and a head presenting but not the other leg. I tried feeling for the other leg but could not even feel it to try and get it straightened. So we just delivered her like that. I set second baby to the side. Mom was still not doing well at that time. just flopped back over. I could not get her to move. I decided that maybe she needed a bit of a rest period ( heck I would ) and focused my attention on the babies. When I set them to the side I did manage to clear their mouths. The were both moving a tiny bit so I had some hope. I got them both a bit dried off and placed them in front of mom. She wanted nothing to do with them

I decided to give mom a B12 shot as well as some Bo-Se. I needed to get her up. Itried picking her up and she would just fall back over. About 20 minutes after the shot mom was up. She did lick the babies a wee bit but I made a judgement call to pull them in long enough to get them dried off. Finally after a few hours of drying and getting some good food and vitamins into mom she was accepting of the babies a wee bit. Her motherly instincts at this time suck. She let me milk out about 4 oz of colostrum and I got the babies to drink that. A friend had arrived by this point and we were then holding babies up to help them get some more colostrum.
They were finally up, very wobbly but up and drinking. Mom is still not real good at motherin gbut she passed the placenta and favors the smaller girl over the bigger boy. She will let them nurse if you are petting or feeding her so I hope she eventually realized what to do. Until then they will get an extra bottle from me a few times a day as well as help nursing. Both made it through the night and has nice black stools today.

Now that bad.
After all this went down I went into the man cave to call DH to give him the update. My friend says I am going to go check on your other goats and the donkey. A minute later I hear her screaming. I go out and she yells you have a doe stuck, she needs help, shes stuck bad and over the fence she goes. I hang up on DH and scale the fence. We were too late. It looks like she was eating and might have gotten hit and shoved to where she could not get out and broke her neck. It took us almost 45 minutes to get her out. I was devastated. I am sure it was a freak accident and there was probably nothing I could have done to prevent it. She was my registered apline bred to my registered alpine buck due to kid at the end of the month. A friend of DH is going to take her and have her mounted.... which in a way is kinda cool. I am going to miss Steiner and just now finally broke down and cried. I think the adrenaline of everything has finally worn off. I'm tired. I'm sad and just plain ole mad about it now. She was one of my first goats.

Sorry about the long post guys... Super tired and slap happy. Still have not been to bed since yesterday. Soon very soon I am hitting the couch.
 

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Hey porkchop,

What a rough day! I am so sorry for the loss of your Alpine and the stress of a rough delivery on your babies. Some days are just so UGH! I hope your kids and doe continue to get better. :hugs
 
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