Possibly pregnant, attacked by our dog :(

[started*with*chickens]

Thank you everyone for understanding. Now our male goat is going CRAZY trying to get to her in her pen. I'm a little worried the chain-link might not hold up! (Ok, not really...but he's even started digging) He's making lots of noises too. He tried getting on her right after it happened yesterday while we were trying to get everything back under control. We've kept her in the pen to keep him off of her. Why is he acting this way? He is in NO WAY protective of her, he hides behind her like she's a shield. He's the biggest chicken ever. She's not showing any signs of heat that we've noticed. I should probably post this question under a different forum but explaining the entire situation over again is just to much for today.

 

[Southern by choice]

Well I will say I sure hope she heals fast and well! Sorry you had to deal with this situation its no fun. For others who like to pick out the dog issue, that isn't what she was here about. I think we should answer the question asked and stop being nosy about the rest. No ones lives in the other's shoes or know what is going on so no one should jump to conclusions. Good luck with your goat and sorry but I had to say something.

Sorry if my posting seemed "nosy"...it was more of a "sometimes new situations for a canine can be problematic and some issues can be resolved others not." I apologize to the poster if any offence was taken. The intent was to be helpful not in any way "nosy" or judgemental. Often people who are new to goats and acquire them are taken off guard when something like this happens.

As far as the buck goes... what kind of goats are these? Not all goats show obvious signs of being in heat. The bucks behavior sounds more like a "I want to mate" attitude. The trying to get through the fence, digging, noises...sounds like a buck trying to get to her for one purpose.

 

[bcnewe2]

You can get peg-g at a farm store with out a vet. it's penicillin you want the long acting one which i think is the g.

I give sick or injured ewes that weigh about 120 pounds up to 12cc's but I do it in multiple locations. No more than 5cc's in one place is my rule of thumb. Do it Sub-Q (under the skin) You can figure out what you doe weighs and go from there.
I'd do that right away. if it is getting infected you don't want to wait for much longer. I'd be giving it a shot every other day for at least 5-7 days.

I've seen or had worse than what you describe and it didn't affect the pregnancy. Have you taken her temp? That will tell you if you have infection. even without a temp for a dog bite I'd be treating with antibiotics. Sorry don't know what a goat temp should be.
Someone with goats might give you a different dosage, as I only have sheep and that's the dosage I'd give a sheep but I'm sure you won't kill her or hurt her by that dosage.

You can get a syringe and the pen-g from a farm store and if you've never given a shot, you can find a you-tube video on how to do it.

I've had young rams act like that when they're confused. Does your buck have other does available for company? He could be freaking because he's alone.

Good luck and know you did the right thing about the dog. I think it was Southern that said it too, some dogs can't be trained and sometimes you just have to do what you have to do.

Now go save your doe!

BTW I am not a vet and don't pretend to be one but I sure do treat my own flock of sheep all the time!

 

[Missy]

Poor goatie! Pen-G can be bought at Tractor Supply and most feed stores I think. I hope all works out well for you! Good Luck!

 

[rebelINny]

Well I will say I sure hope she heals fast and well! Sorry you had to deal with this situation its no fun. For others who like to pick out the dog issue, that isn't what she was here about. I think we should answer the question asked and stop being nosy about the rest. No ones lives in the other's shoes or know what is going on so no one should jump to conclusions. Good luck with your goat and sorry but I had to say something.

Sorry if my posting seemed "nosy"...it was more of a "sometimes new situations for a canine can be problematic and some issues can be resolved others not." I apologize to the poster if any offence was taken. The intent was to be helpful not in any way "nosy" or judgemental. Often people who are new to goats and acquire them are taken off guard when something like this happens.

As far as the buck goes... what kind of goats are these? Not all goats show obvious signs of being in heat. The bucks behavior sounds more like a "I want to mate" attitude. The trying to get through the fence, digging, noises...sounds like a buck trying to get to her for one purpose.

I wasn't pointing fingers directly at anyone, sorry if it seemed that way. Just seems alot of posts get ripped apart sometime and posters are made to feel bad. Hugs

 

[started*with*chickens]

I went to our local TSC to get the medicine and even though the website says they close at 9, ours closes at 8?! We go in there at least a couple of times a week (there's always something we need) and I didn't know they closed early. So.not.my.day. First thing tomorrow though I will get the peg-g and get her started on it. She's getting up and moving but not putting any weight on that leg. She will lay on that side though, so I'm taking that as a good sign. I'm almost hoping she's not bred at this point so her body can focus on healing.

They are our only 2 goats. We hadn't planned on keeping him until we knew for sure she was bred. Luckily he's actually starting to grow on us and doesn't have a mean bone in his body so if we're going to be 'stuck' with him awhile, it will work out.

I believe they are Nigerian dwarfs but I'm not positive*. My guess is the female is around 45lbs? I need to get a weight on her before giving her the medication. The female had triplets with her first pregnancy (at a year old I believe, which I've learned could be to early? She's about a year and a half now.) One was still born but the other 2 were healthy. (pregnancy was from the male we bought with her).

ETA: my husband thinks they are NDG but I just looked at pics and don't believe they are. They both have horns and the female is tiny, but the male is larger. I will try to add a picture. This was when we first got them, they were very skittish. The miniature cow came from the same place and is about 9 months old.

 

[bcnewe2]

Is her leg hot where she was bit? Could it have broke? Feel it. Squeeze it up and down the leg, You will be able to feel a break. It'll freak you out but you'll feel it. If that the case, still needs the pen-g but you can also splint the leg. I use foam pipe insulation. The kind already split in it to fit on a pipe. Vet wrap to hold it on. But I bet its not broke and just infected. Itll be hot ton the touch. Have you cleaned the hole out really well? Get some blue wound spray or vetricin. To clean out a wound easily I use saline contact eye solution. It comes with a spout to squirt it too. Vetricin is a good spray to use. It should be at tractor supply too. Its good stuff.

If she weighs 45 lbs I'd probably give her 5 or 6 cc's. Pick up a bag of 50 lb grain then pick her up. Close?

Your buck is feeling quite left out. You could try
Letting him in. If he hassles her, back out he goes but you might find he settles down when they're together. She might feel better if she's not alone either.
BTW....love that mini cow. How big is he supposed to get?

 

[started*with*chickens]

The leg doesn't feel hot to touch and there's nothing oozing or any smell or other sign of infection. We're starting her on the antibiotics just to be safe. It doesn't feel as though anything is broken. She was putting a tiny amount of pressure on it this morning while she was hopping around but nothing significant, almost as though she's tired of holding it up. She did try to scratch at her ear with it. She seems very light, like a bird but 40lbs should be a safe guess for size. Thankful Buck seems to have calmed down some. He's decided to start table dancing to keep himself busy. (I have no idea how he managed to get up on our table on the back porch!)

The mini cow should be about 36 inches fully grown. I wish we had the room for the other 3 they were selling!

 

[Canadiannee]

Punctures are definitely the worst, so along with antibiotics, I'd just make sure to continue cleaning her wound 1-2x daily and check for heat and swelling around the puncture sites. If the puncture closes and there's bacteria behind it, it'll form an abcess, and that gets nasty! Someone suggested saline solution for cleaning, some I know use salt water... when it comes to puncture wounds, I fill up a syringe (without needle) with benatine and irrigate the puncture, and then smear with an antibiotic ointment... Everyone has their different ways of treating wounds and punctures, and your medicine cabinet as well as your knowledge will expand! (that is a given!)

There is a possibility that your doe's leg will be awfully tender for awhile... could be sore muscles from your dog grabbing her leg and her fighting to get away. Very glad to hear you're not feeling a broken bone...

I am so sorry about your dog... you've had to make a very difficult decision, and I think condolences for this loss must be said... I often say starting out with livestock is like having a cat or a dog before the first human child comes along... we always hope our feline or canine companion will be tolerant of the new babe, but it doesn't always work out that way...

BIG hugs to you!

 

[bcnewe2]

Response disapeared...darn
Probably bruised and sore. A dog exerts lots of pressure when it bites. Bruises are very common, you can't see it for the hair. The problem is the tiny puncture holes seal up easily, sealing up all the bacteria from the dog mouth. I have rarely see a dog bite that doesn't get infected. Dirty mouths!

She is probably fine but I'd be safe rather than sorry with the antibiotic.

Really love the mini cow, none round here that I've ever seen.