question about breed

[laughingllama75]

Still waiting to hear from my friend, regarding showing pic.

 

[Farmer Kitty]

I've seen a pic of the calf. It's body is black. It has white socks on three legs, white chest, white one the inside of one leg. The white on it's face wraps around the whole face, sides and chin too. No white line down the back from what I can see.

 

[username taken]

jerseys are brown, pinz are brown too. the black has to come from somewhere ... gotta be something weird going on here

 

[jhm47]

Theoretically, you could have a high-percentage Hereford that is black, but it's highly unlikely. If you breed a black animal (BB) to a red animal (rr), you will get a Br animal. Since black is always dominant, you will get a black calf with a dominant black (B) gene. However, this calf will also be carrying a recessive (r) gene. This calf's genetics will be Br. When this calf is mated to another red (Hereford) animal, it will have a 50-50 chance of having another black calf (again Br). If the resulting calf is again black (Br), it will carry the Br gene just like the preceding generation. Another generation will have a 50 - 50 chance, and so forth for each succeeding generation. If at any point in these generations you get a red calf (rr), the black gene is totally gone, and you will have to start over. But---as long as you continue to get black (Br) calves, you have a 50 - 50 chance of continuing to get black calves.

If you mate two Br animals, mathematically you will get 25% BB (homozygous black which will ALWAYS give you black) calves, 50% (black with red gene) Br calves, and 25% (red with no black gene) rr animals.

It also works the same way with polled vs horned cattle, with polled being dominant.

Clear as mud??? Hope I have explained this so everyone can understand it.

 

[laughingllama75]

Ok, I got permission. Remember, this is NOT my cow and calf. I will try to get my friend on here, but I am thinking he is too busy. We'll see!
not a great pic of calf, but you can see what she looks like anyway.

 

[WildRoseBeef]

Sure looks like she's been sired by a Herf-Angus cross bull. I see absolultely no Pinz in that girl at all. And most pinzgauers are red, not black, and since I did say earlier that a pure Hereford wouldn't throw a black calf like that, it most definately has to be a crossbred bull of somesort (be it Simmi-Angus X or Hereford-Angus X) that sired that calf.

 

[Imissmygirls]

I'd say someone jumped the fence and it wasn't a Pinzgauer!
However:
From the official web site: The American Pinzgauer Association has a breeding-up program which allows a producer to breed up to Purebred Pinzgauer (7/8 for females, 15/16 for bulls) by starting with commercial cows and using Pinzgauer bulls. At the end of 1989, there were over 30,000 Fullblood and Purebred Pinzgauers in the United States, giving the cattlemen a world wide genetic base on which to build a Pinzgauer herd.

So technically I suppose it could be a 15/16 Pinzgauer bull, but really, there is NOTHING in the coloring or marking indicating the distinctive Pinzgauer breeding so it makes one wonder what other Pinzgauer characteristics it doesn't have!
I vote with WRB on the Herf/Angus.

 

[laughingllama75]

That is what my friend is thinking. hereford/angus bull, with jersey mother so, SHE will be beef. Oh well, such is life on the farm. Actually, I think if it were a bull calf it would be going anyway.

 

[MReit]

Nice looking cow, and good looking calf. Too bad its not what they wanted. I vote on the hereford/ang bull also. Just some info, Jerseys can come out that black, actually its not preferred of the breed, but I personally think they are the prettiest next to the chestnut brown. That jersey cow is also a crossbred even though it is a reg. jeresey it does have some hol cross in the genetics. Purebred Jerseys from the Isle of Jersey won't have white But with the way AI is and the expanding genetics need to do, and the "need" for higher production there are many sires with some hols background somewhere. Just some useless info. I could babble forever.