Question about Kiko/Boer percentage goats... Really confused...

[Mamaboid]

LOL, you didn't cause a stir, we just like to be thorough in our answers. Here are some good sites that I have found for information on Myotonics. There are lots of them but these are my favorites.

http://www.myotonicgoatregistry.net/

http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2009/nov/05/fainting-goats-explained

http://www.tennesseemeatgoats.com/myotonicgoats.html

http://www.ansi.okstate.edu/breeds/goats/

 

[Straw Hat Kikos]

Onion Creek Ranch has good Myotonics, TMG, and TexMasters. She's one of the most well known Myotonic breeders and she's created the TMG and TexMaster.

I would love to talk Kikos with you, or goats in general. I'll PM you some Kiko info and research in a few minutes.

I too have thought about my own cross and the "Perfect Meat Goat" which would be a Myotonic Kiko cross. Reason the Boer Kiko cross is so big is because it has a fancy name, just as the TexMaster now does.

Boers are good goats and I am a big Boer fan, though it will never come off that way as it looks like I bash them, but I only like Boers if they are good ones. There are so many Boer goats in the US and most of them are bad goats. I think even Boer people would agree to that. Most, esp east of the Mississippi, have no parasite resistance, horrible hooves, and are overall bad goats. Out west they aren't as bad but here east most have issues. Reasons why are another story for another time. I would like to say, before I am attacked, not all are like this and I am not calling any of your Boer goats bad quality.

Yep meat goats are growing very quickly and they are alot less work than dairy goats. You can feed 200 goats in the time it takes to milk 10 does.

I don't think you could go wrong with either breed. Both are very much alike.

 

[OneFineAcre]

I raise Myotonic Goats. About 90% of the time I call them Fainters. When you say Fainters, people know what you are talking about. When you say Myotonic, people look at you with a blank look on their faces. Why is it any more Wrong to call a Myotonic a Fainter than it is to call a Nubian a Nubi, or a Nigerian Dwarf an ND or a Toggenburg a Togg. We see these things all the time and nobody tells us we are wrong.

Very good point!



It seems around here when people advertise "Fainters" the goats are nothing like a meat goat... they are real small and look like a cute little pet goat. Not much bigger than a ND.

Thus the reason "myotonia" is a disqualifying characteristic in Nigerian Dwarfs

Really wish "Swiss" markings was a DQ for N.D.'s

Oh, I hijacked again didn't I?

 

[Capricornucopia]

LOL! That's okay OneFineAcre! I soak up info like a sponge, and I often go off-topic along various tangents. One never knows where a conversation may lead.

Thank you for those links, Mamaboid. I will, believe it or not, read every word, and I'm sure I'll find some helpful information!

 

[Southern by choice]

@ 1 Fine Acre-

Really wish "Swiss" markings was a DQ for N.D.'s

Why?

 

[Pearce Pastures]

I was curious as to why as well. The only thing I can guess is that some disreputable people might try to cross an ND with an Alpine or something so as to cheat a win. I love the Swiss coat though.

 

[jodief100]

I raise kikos, I love them. Wonderful, hardy goats that I rarely have to worm. They are a little on the smaller side and not as stocky. I mix and match. I have a few boers and I recently bought come MiKi's (myotonic, kiko crosses).

The fastest growing, biggest, most solid goats I have are my BoKi kids that have Boer Sires and Kiko Dams. They get size from the boer and the kikos are great moms with LOTS of milk. They don't breed true but they are fantastic terminal kids.

I have added some myotonic genes because they tend to have the highest dress out percentage and best carcass quality. I am seeing if I can retain some of those characteristics in my breeder kids. We will see how it works.

It really all comes down to good breeding. There are good Boers, but lots of bad ones. There are good kikos and some bad ones. There are "meat" myotionics and "pet" myotonics.

 

[OneFineAcre]

@ 1 Fine Acre-

Really wish "Swiss" markings was a DQ for N.D.'s

Why?

What Pearce Pastures said.

 

[Southern by choice]

@ 1 Fine Acre-

Really wish "Swiss" markings was a DQ for N.D.'s

Why?

What Pearce Pastures said.
No doubt in my mind it has happened

That is just sad.

 

[OneFineAcre]

You quoted me before I edited the last line out