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Against depopulating the whole flock. Instead only those infected, survivors to breed from -- immunity factor.
I'd be in favor of depopulating depending on if survivors become carriers-typhoid mary's. A lot of poultry diseases go that way. IDK if they are willing to talk about if bird flu does.
 
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Disbudding day for all but the 2 tiniest tiny tot ND's. Tonight I go to bed worrying and hoping I didn't fry anyone's brain.

I've been coaxing along Emmi's buck that she got physical with. I put him on antibiotics for his swollen legs-my baked ones that got hot on the way over, but they seem to be working (figured if they didn't work and killed him at least he'd be dead). The swelling has gone down but it appears one of his knees the bones are not attached to eachother, he still has zero muscle, and his front leg joints and rear pasterns appear fused. I got him pooping. His belly is still getting unnaturally large and then shrinking down. Thin hair, almost like it's either falling out or not growing new. Emmi is only sort of interested in him and lets him nurse on the stand. The infection seems to be being staved off. He has necrotic spots on his legs so I'm not sure how long infection will stay away. His brother that perished after birth, his whole body was floppy like this kid's leg. I didn't check for dead spots. Emmi's cotyledons were decaying in one spot on the placenta.

This kid keeps biting at his legs and belly and is not getting much better. I think I need to take him to get put down-front legs fairly unusable, back legs, only one usable, abnormal body composition, refusal to recover. He is growing. That's weird.

His sisters appear normal activity-wise but are also short on muscle.

The vet mentioned cache valley being here when he came to unstuck the 4 ND kids that were coming all at once (did I write about that? Oh geeze, that was just the beginning of the malpositions). I suspect cache valley and worry about the surviving doelings. Heck, I worry about all the kids that were hard deliveries and are feeling boney at this point.

I also kind of wonder if Beaul's fertility was affected by this. His does did not take except for one.

Anyway, tomorrow I'm going to see if I can get a hold of the vet during normal business hours. Pooey.
(reproduction of anything: not for the faint at heart)
 

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What do you do for cache valley?
Nothing. All I know for sure is that you breed goats that haven't had it after the mosquitoes are gone-so very late in the year. If they contract it during pregnancy it causes fetal deformation and if early enough death. From what I understand it deforms bucks' swimmers. Then everybody has immunity to it for "several years". I almost wonder if I brought it in with my little white buck since he had little fertility for a 2 year old buck and then mosquitoes spread it to the does. And the doe that came with him kidded normally with a normal litter size and normal kids. We also had few buck kids, VERY unusual for us. Male embryos are supposedly more fragile in general.
(heads up, this is a PDF on Cache Valley Virus)
https://ag.umass.edu/sites/ag.umass.edu/files/pdf-doc-ppt/Cache_Valley_Virus.pdf

I wish there was a vaccine for it. There totally should be a vaccine for it. Basically if the does/ewes get it while they're open and bucks get it when they're not breeding for several months everything is fine and then they are immune. From what I understand after they've had it it clears their system. Between now and mid July is when it would make the most sense for them to have it. If I knew for sure my whole herd had it already this would be a non issue.

Anyway, I'll call the vet today.
 

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According to the info once they have had it, they are immune.
Yes, so having the disease should be like a vaccine. The questions are, is it Cache Valley, and did the whole herd get exposed? If they potentially all had it the next year a herd should be able to continue as normal and just freshen yearlings late.
 

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STAND SO I CAN SPRAY YOU WITH OFF, GOATIES.

Actually i put misquito dunk bits in all the necessary standing water last year and they are on the lowest mosquito area on the property. No larvae, but the goats may get a boost from the bt. There's also no shade or natural water near them beyond the shelters. Not sure what else can be done.
 
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