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Sorry about the kitty, I know it is always harder when the pet belongs to one of my kids.

You really have a goat that will eat the bolus, of how I wish that was true around her. My does all looked like crap coat wise and I had a 5 month old buckling die most likely from a Selenium deficiency even though he and the doe both had BoSe. So with all of that I switched out minerals to one they actually like and gave the does all a multimin 90 injection. What a difference in 6 weeks, nice shiny coats that are filling in bare spots and they just look good.

I am fairly certain that a severe selenium deficiency has caused some stunted goats for the last two years, probably Bellini and her sister being among that group. I always dose the dams a month before kidding with BoSe and the kids at about 3-6 weeks but obviously not enough. I don't want to overdo it either and a blood test for selenium is not the best diagnostic tool but I guess better than nothing. And we won't even mention the copper issues. The injection is so much easier than a bolus.

The senior does that I gave the multimin to and the kids that were born this year look great coat wise. The does that are 18 months that I didn't treat don't look as good so they are next on the list as they get bred. I don't know how long this stuff will stay in their system and I will treat again in about 4 months as some will be ready to freshen then but I am impressed. Also the senior does, about 20 of them, are going through 20lbs of minerals a week. Would love to add some herbal stuff to that mix but I am sure they would just pick through it, that is what goats do, right?

Did Bellinis' sisters coat after get slick and shiny? What did you name her? How is Bailey? I would love to see kids from her and Rocky. Rocky has a few nice chunky half alpines running around my field, he should do a good job for you.
 

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Hi Babs!

What minerals are you using now? I use the sweetlix meat maker and magnum milk and the goats love them. I did add a little kelp this last time, sure that they would refuse it, but they ate it all up! I have a selenium deficiency here too. I regularly have to give extra BoSe 3 times a year and I am still having to give the newborns some when their legs are weak. I have to do the copper 3-4 times a year as well. I like the copper rods in the bolus as it is supposed to be safer and also work on the barberpoles! I nearly always have an improvement in coat quality a few weeks after the copper.

Bailey is great! I love her. She is huge and filling out.

I think we are going with "Raspberry Cosmopolitan" for sister. She has a very soft coat, but it isn't really slick like the other goats. Her hooves were really bad.:hide I feel terrible that I hadn't noticed, but they are better now. I did run a fecal screen on her and she had a single cocci and a single worm egg. I am not positive on the type as I am new to goat parasites, but I was happy with the low numbers. My goat vet is in fresno, about 40 minutes away so difficult for fecal purposes. I want to send a couple out but not sure on which goats. I can't find where I wrote it down, but I thought she was around 40# when I brought her home and she has almost caught up to Bellini size wise. She tries to get in for some grain when we hand feed a handfull over the fence, but she is too little to squish her way in between the fat girls. One of these days, I will separate the big girls out. But then I have to decide if I leave the nubians with the big girls (they are almost as tall as the boers) or leave them with the nigerians. Do I move Bellini and Cosmo with the nigis??? or keep them with the boers??? They are a herd with the nubs but they like Bailey too. How do I keep them all happy? :barnie

I don't know if I mentioned it, but I am trying out a new pelleted feed. It is palm and date silage made from the fronds and waste from the harvests ( I believe). All the goats loved it except the 2 girls I am still milking...until they did, then they were sad when I ran out and they just had the regular grain! Goats!:idunno
 

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Sorry about the hooves, I have to get someone to help me do mine; ever since carpal tunnel surgery I don't have the hand strength unless it is very wet outside. And because of that they don't get done as often as they should so I am sure they were horrible when she went to you, she was a pain to catch too. I am glad she found a good home...and I like the name.

Goats are difficult and contrary whenever they can be. What they like today they may very well hate tomorrow. Worms are never much of an issue here since I have no pasture for grazing. I literally worm everyone once a year and have never had a goat with barber pole worms that had enough to worry about. Thank goodness that isn't one of my worries. Obviously selenium and copper is. I will have to try the PB trick but I am not hopeful. I tried to make them cookies and then was going to add copper to them but they wouldn't even eat the cookies plain.

I am now using the magnum milk as well, and they obviously like them. The purina mineral was seldom touched so I just figured they didn't need them. :hide How wrong I was. Mine love the kelp when I sprinkle it on their grain, haven't tried it in the minerals. The injectable mineral was quite easy, and no abscesses as I had feared so I might just stay with that and give up on the bolus. I had a doe die from undetermined causes ($120.00 to tell me that) and she was low in copper even though I had just bolused her 2 months ago, then the kid low in selenium...and he was ok for copper, maybe because he was young. :idunno :bow Makes it hard to find a balance when they all need something different.

As you said...GOATS :barnie
 

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I can't decide if we are going with Razzy or Cosmo for short, but the recipe for raspberry cosmopolitans looked so pretty in pink and yummy!!! ( I will let you know if they really are if I ever actually make them.) Don't worry about the hooves...it was all on me. I have done her hooves already, but they seem to grow at a different rate and shape than everyone else. She is terrible to catch, which is why I can't feed her more. I need help to catch her and I am running shorthanded with these kids just taking off to college and stuff.... But she is just nervous about being handled. She is starting to try and come up for treats now that she knows we have good things. Like Rigatoni, I think she just needs time. I am thinking I might breed these little girls to Nigerians for their first times to keep kids small. Not in a hurry to breed them though because they are so small themselves.

I haven't been able to find any, but I have heard that the cattle mineral ONYX by cargill is supposed to be pretty good too. I can get the Sweetlix in San Jose when I am in that area. And I want to add Diamond V yeast if I ever find it. I do give them some brewers yeast sometimes but it is a bit pricey. I know that geese and goats have a higher B vitamin need than some other animals.

StinkerBelle had a coppery look to her black coat just a month or 2 ago and I was getting ready to copper anyway for breeding, but it has since grown out some (I have not done the bolus on her yet) and beautiful black is coming in underneath. I am not sure if the palm/date feed is why, I will see if I can email the company to find out more about the mineral content. Don't want to over do it either, but if it has more copper or helps retain more copper (or something like that) then this feed might be something to supplement everyone with. :idunno
 

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I haven't been sleeping so well at night.... might have something to do with bottle feeding around the clock. For the record, I came home for lunch on wednesday and before I even got to where he was standing on the porch, DH was asking me what I brought home or what did I do??? :idunno LOL! :D =D Not sure if he can read my mind now, or if I give off a 'got a new pet' vibe.... Anyhow, her story is something along the lines of a dog ate her foot off and she will need to have the leg amputated once she is big enough for anesthesia. The person that brought her in decided to euthanize her. But I didn't think she wanted to die so she came home with me (after the owner signed a release, meaning she gave up her rights and interest in the cat and is fully aware I am taking her). I am now the proud owner of a very cute, soft and fluffy, slightly defective and barely used (2-3 weeks old), squirmy little peg leg pirate. Who has no teeth, sucks on the couch, is already learning how to purr and kneads on my sweatshirt like she is a breadmaking pro.
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Ahhh, I am in love. I have bottle raised 7 kittens in the last year; the vet has me a speed dial LOL. You are a good person to take her in; poor little thing needed a friend. Are you raising her on goat's milk?
 

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I have her on KMR and will add yogurt and goats milk shortly. The good thing about KMR is that it has the vitamins and such specific for kittens. I had to buy it from work since she came first thing in the morning and I had to try and feed her something. But, the whole container should get me all the way through the bottles with her since I only have the one, and if I do run out, she will be used to goats milk so we will be set.
 

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I raised all of mine on straight goats milk and they did ok. I can't stand the smell of KMR but I could see where the vitamins would be good for them. I found homes for all of them but this last one. He came from a litter of 5 that were delivered c section when a lady wanted the cat spayed NOW; she didn't care about killing the kittens. I had a friend volunteer to take two and raised them and keep them. Then another lady said she would help me foster them and took the three for a few weeks. Well one died while she had them, and another died right after she gave them back to me. So I finished raising a single kitten and I kept him. He is bigger now, 6 months old and a complete love bug.

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Cute! Love the yawn!

I haven't decided on a name yet. My girlfriend suggested Rumplestiltskin, since she will 'need stilts to walk' :p. That is pretty cute. Another choice was Captain Barbosa, the scary captain from Pirates of the Carribean. Being a pegleg and all that is pretty cute too. plain old Peggy or I-lean would work, but I kinda like the first two a little better. She is cuddly of course, but she has a little bit of a temper too so she may end up being a strong willed little punk. :barnie Since I added the yogurt to her milk, she likes it better and actually sucks it down now, taking about 10 minutes less to eat each feeding. Nice! Still takes about 15-20 minutes each time, but we should be getting that under control pretty soon.

I put the big boer girls in with Rocky this weekend. No one in particular seemed to be in heat at the minute, but I had the extra helping hands and I plan on leaving them in there for a few weeks as long as everyone is good. So far, we are all getting along. I had to remind Rocky that his girlfriends are all "fat girls" and if he didn't let them eat, they wouldn't let him have any fun! :p He still doesn't share, but they get their own chunks of hay thrown elsewhere so they don't really care. Poor Andy doesn't have any company, but he is being mellow about it. Bailey actually seemed more interested in him.

Since the fat girls are out of the big pen the other girls are much quieter and calmer. Yes! I love it. I need to make this the norm. Gotta come up with different pens for the big goats so I can feed and love on everyone easier.

Sold Katastrophes 2 little wethers to a couple of little guys. They might try and show them in 4-H. They hadn't asked and I hadn't mentioned util they were here checking them out, that I was sending them with registration paperwork just in case they ever wanted it to show. Not sure about all the clubs and counties, but some do allow wethers and pygmies for the 4-h juniors. They are going to look into it.

Found a nigerian buck I want :hide.... did I say want? Cause I will need another one next year.....:idunno I'm just sayin..... He is out of a doe I just love (udder to die for) and originally from the same lady I got my nubians from. She is looking for a good home for him, so I might be able to send a deposit, and have a few weeks to get things sorted out. She says he is a sweetie too..... I love me a sweet buck! :D =D
 
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