Ragdollcatlady's Just a Little Patch of Weeds Farm journal

[ragdollcatlady]

We are almost done with the county fair.

DS3 got a 2nd place with his market wether REO Speedwagon, and went to the champion drive. Didn't make Reserve, but we were proud anyways. He sold today for $5.50 a lb. and the company that bought it was the local feed store. DS3 had taken an invitation in to the guy a few days ago and gave him a little spiel about his goat. Looks like it worked!

Both of Baileys boer doe kids were entered in the breeding boer kid class. I was disappointed that they were the only entries, but I was really happy to hear the judge break down the differences....he did confirm that Nicky Cage is a little bit nicer and smoother than Ghost Ryder... Nicky took 1st, Grand Champion breeding doe kid, Reserve Grand breeding boer doe, behind a nice thick yearling. Ryder was 2nd.

Pearl nigerian dry yearling got 3rd.... she really just went for fun.

Brie, nubian, got a second in her class with compliments on her nice smooth fore udder attachment and overall attachments as well. She started leaking and had to be milked out a little before the show, but that is OK.

The best part....

Are you ready????

StinkerBelle, took 1st in her class of 3 year old registered milkers, Champion AOB, Reserve Supreme Champion! She was running with the big girls and she left them in the dust!!! The judge was very descriptive and gave reasons for every placing. It was really awesome to hear and see what she was looking for. Judges here tend to discount the nigerians as not real dairy goats so it was super awesome to have ours place like she did. She was commenting on her body depth, capacity, overall dairyness, smooth foreudder, attachments and udder balance and the only reason she didn't win Supreme Grand Champion, was because after her milkout, her rear udder was more deflated than the grade does. The judge kept saying she was a "very dairy doe". Unfortunately this is not a sanctioned show so we don't earn any legs or anything, but I am thrilled!

In my own, maybe not so humble opinion, most of the udders she was competing against looked painful and distorted. Before she showed I was concerned about her being too full so I milked out a cup.There isn't an award out there that would be reason enough to justify overuddering my girls. Years ago, a much more experienced showkid, had asked me why we milked our doe out since she hadn't filled enough to show her udder to its top potential. I didn't know if she would fill in the amount of time we had left, but it just wasn't all that important to me. As a mom, I would hate to be that uncomfortable for what is essentially a beauty contest, so maybe sympathy comes into play a little bit too.

Fair is soooo tiring. But even my kid was saying that is was much more fun, showing with a goat that was winning! And it was much easier having 2 extra kids and myself to help and support the kid showing than when I had all 4 kids showing different animals and only me to support and help them all. Now I know how to do it better for when grandkids come along!

 

[ragdollcatlady]

I almost forgot...we came home to a new baby goat! Little Italy decided to kid while we were out yesterday. Single doeling!

 

[frustratedearthmother]

Nice!

 

[Latestarter]

Well, Congrats all around! Sounds like a great fair result and to come home to a new doeling kid, well, it can't get much better than that!

 

[OneFineAcre]

Congrats

 

[Hens and Roos]

Congrats!!

 

[babsbag]

Sounds like you had a great time and everyone did well. I have not tackled a fair, and never will, but my friends that do are totally exhausted by the end of the week. Our local fair is next week and my friend's daughter is taking in Boers, cows (with calves), and Alpines. She will be one busy young lady. I get worn out just thinking about it.

Now you need to find a sanctioned show for Stinkerbelle.

 

[ragdollcatlady]

Thanks everyone!

So Rigatonis heavily dappled buck kid "Casper" and "Nicky Cage", Baileys red doe kid are sold and going home this weekend... and I am glad to sell this pretty little buck kid to a breeding home but I really wanted to keep Nicky. Oh well, maybe Bailey will give me another Nicky next year.

Here is a little bit we learned about trying to register our 75% kids. ABGA will give you a certificate of pedigree for buck kids under a certain percentage (I think it is 98 percent). But you still can't register doe kids from them with that. You need something called a listing paper and a corresponding DNA test. I understand the DNA test part since all bucks are now required to be tested, but they told me I had to return the certificate of pedigree to get the listing paper, which will essentially be agreeing that for registration purposes, he will be considered 0%. Only doe kids from him will be eligible if from high percentage registered does. I am just a little confused. If I have "proof" from his certificate of pedigree and DNA tested sire that he is 75%, why do we have to start at 0% for registration purposes? Not complaining...I just don't understand.

 

[babsbag]

It is my understanding that buck gets a listing paper when he is ineligible for the record of pedigree so not sure what they are telling you.

Bucks of 15/16 or less Boer blood will not be eligible for registration. Animals of ½ (50%), ¾ (75%), 7/8 (88%), or 15/16 Boer Blood are eligible for a “Record of Pedigree” certificate. This “Record of Pedigree” will be issued after the proper documentation has been submitted with the buck’s herd prefix, herd name, tattoos, date of birth and a three generation history.

Animals that are otherwise ineligible for registration or a Record of Pedigree will be eligible for a “Listing Paper” with the association. This “Listing Paper” will be issued after the proper documentation has been submitted with the applicant’s herd prefix, herd name, tattoos, date of birth, and a copy of any applicable registration certificate issued by another association.

I know that if the dam is 100% and the buck is unregistered you can get a 50% doeling but not sure about a buck with a record of pedigree. That rule regarding bucks and registration was changed not very long ago so maybe they don't even know. I think I would ask to talk to someone else as what they told you makes no sense. If you have a 75% buck and a record of pedigree to prove it and you breed to a 50% doe you get a 62.5% kid. Also if you look at ABGA's fee schedule they put a 96% buck and below in the same herd book as percentage does. Yes...you need to talk to someone else.

BTW... A buck can be registered at 31/32 and above. ..97%

 

[ragdollcatlady]

Well, the person I spoke with said the same thing as the person I emailed with. I mailed back the certificate with the failed listing application and wrote that my buyer for this kid had asked for both the certificate and listing paper and I requested the DNA order at the same time. I have not really sure what will happen, but my buyer is still wanting to pick up this weekend so hopefully this will be all sorted out shortly. While it is a royal pain, hopefully I will get this figured out (so I know for next time and to save some trouble for the new owner.) Thankfully they have been very understanding as I have kept them in the loop about all of the developments regarding this stuff.