Agreed!aggieterpkatie said:There is still a chance those lambs could be bred if she's leaving them with the ram until 9 mos!
Agreed!aggieterpkatie said:There is still a chance those lambs could be bred if she's leaving them with the ram until 9 mos!
How unusual is it for a Southdown sheep to be born in late August (like the one born in Central Park Zoo)?SheepGirl said:I don't understand what you mean by "breeding times." Ewes come into heat, on average, about every 17 days. Usually rams are in with the ewes for two heat cycles (about 34 days/1 month), though some breeders leave them in for three to four cycles (51-68 days). I know my Babydoll cross ewes come into heat starting in early/mid October and last until about January if they weren't bred.
The place you have described (20'x300') is just over 1/8 of an acre. There is no doubt more than enough room (sheep really only need 30-50 sq ft of space per head in an open lot), but if you were thinking of pasturing them, you will likely run out of grass and you will have to feed hay.
It can be done, but that would mean the ewe would have to be bred in March. Normally more traditional, wool-type ewes (such as Southdowns) don't cycle that late naturally. In order to be bred that late in the season, the ewe probably had a CIDR used on her to get her to come into heat. A CIDR is an instrument you insert into the ewe's vulva and it releases (I believe) progesterone. After a couple of days, it is removed, and the ewes come into heat within a week.Mike said:How unusual is it for a Southdown sheep to be born in late August (like the one born in Central Park Zoo)?SheepGirl said:I don't understand what you mean by "breeding times." Ewes come into heat, on average, about every 17 days. Usually rams are in with the ewes for two heat cycles (about 34 days/1 month), though some breeders leave them in for three to four cycles (51-68 days). I know my Babydoll cross ewes come into heat starting in early/mid October and last until about January if they weren't bred.
The place you have described (20'x300') is just over 1/8 of an acre. There is no doubt more than enough room (sheep really only need 30-50 sq ft of space per head in an open lot), but if you were thinking of pasturing them, you will likely run out of grass and you will have to feed hay.
Has that ever happened before?
So what do you make of this?SheepGirl said:It can be done, but that would mean the ewe would have to be bred in March. Normally more traditional, wool-type ewes (such as Southdowns) don't cycle that late naturally. In order to be bred that late in the season, the ewe probably had a CIDR used on her to get her to come into heat. A CIDR is an instrument you insert into the ewe's vulva and it releases (I believe) progesterone. After a couple of days, it is removed, and the ewes come into heat within a week.Mike said:How unusual is it for a Southdown sheep to be born in late August (like the one born in Central Park Zoo)?SheepGirl said:I don't understand what you mean by "breeding times." Ewes come into heat, on average, about every 17 days. Usually rams are in with the ewes for two heat cycles (about 34 days/1 month), though some breeders leave them in for three to four cycles (51-68 days). I know my Babydoll cross ewes come into heat starting in early/mid October and last until about January if they weren't bred.
The place you have described (20'x300') is just over 1/8 of an acre. There is no doubt more than enough room (sheep really only need 30-50 sq ft of space per head in an open lot), but if you were thinking of pasturing them, you will likely run out of grass and you will have to feed hay.
Has that ever happened before?
http://www.bestweekever.tv/2011-09-01/meet-irene-hope-a-hurricane-baby-lamb-miracle/While you were busy lazily taping your windows up and knocking people down for that final can of Bushs Baked Beans, a miracle was happening. A sheep named Truffles gave birth to a black baby lamb at the Central Park Zoo moments before the storm was set to hit. Zookeepers were shocked to see this little bleating 8 lb. animal baby, as sheep usually give birth in the spring. (Looks like Truffles had a very busy April and by busy we mean sexual.) The keepers of the zoo scrambled to build Truffles and her newborn a makeshift shelter before Irene made landfall, and went ahead and named this lamb Irene Hope.
I highly doubt it was natural. The latest we've ever had lambs born from a Babydoll (which is what Truffles is) was June. I think it was very irresponsible--and impossible--for the zoo keepers to not know their ewe was pregnant. Even when Babydolls have singles, they look like they are pregnant with twins.Mike said:So what do you make of this?SheepGirl said:It can be done, but that would mean the ewe would have to be bred in March. Normally more traditional, wool-type ewes (such as Southdowns) don't cycle that late naturally. In order to be bred that late in the season, the ewe probably had a CIDR used on her to get her to come into heat. A CIDR is an instrument you insert into the ewe's vulva and it releases (I believe) progesterone. After a couple of days, it is removed, and the ewes come into heat within a week.Mike said:How unusual is it for a Southdown sheep to be born in late August (like the one born in Central Park Zoo)?
Has that ever happened before?
http://www.bestweekever.tv/2011-09-01/meet-irene-hope-a-hurricane-baby-lamb-miracle/While you were busy lazily taping your windows up and knocking people down for that final can of Bushs Baked Beans, a miracle was happening. A sheep named Truffles gave birth to a black baby lamb at the Central Park Zoo moments before the storm was set to hit. Zookeepers were shocked to see this little bleating 8 lb. animal baby, as sheep usually give birth in the spring. (Looks like Truffles had a very busy April and by busy we mean sexual.) The keepers of the zoo scrambled to build Truffles and her newborn a makeshift shelter before Irene made landfall, and went ahead and named this lamb Irene Hope.
The article says the zoo keepers were surprised, but if Truffles was given a CIDR it would have to have been planed.
Could this have happened naturally?