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Ridgetop
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Baymule: I always respect your opinion.
I agree that Angel would produce excellent guardian dogs. And we would love to have puppies from Angel and Bubba, but I can get wonderful dogs from my friend who bred Rika Bubba, and Angel's mother. The price I pay for them has nothing to do with their registration papers, but everything to do with their guarding background. My friend, Erick, knows all their generations of ability, x-rays and tests them for medical/genetic problems, gives them early training, and is my backup and go-to guy for behavior problems. That is what I pay for. (Although he would help anyone with behavior problems in Anatolians or other guardian breeds.)
The main thing for me now is that raising a litter of good guardian puppies is EXPENSIVE. By the time I have Angel x-rayed, feed her during pregnancy, feed her during lactation, feed the growing litter, it will cost me as much as the check I will write to Erick! And with his experience he can judge how the puppies will turn out, what their guardian abilities will be, choose the right puppy for me, and begin the puppy's training himself.
AND THE HARDEST PART OF BREEDING DOGS IS FINDING GOOD BUYERS FOR MY PUPPIES! In good livestock homes. With people that actually know how to train livestock guardian dogs properly, understand all their peculiar behaviors, and not punish them for behaviors that the owners don't understand. Here in Southern California there are not so many people wanting LGDs so you have to weed out the people that want a pet from those wanting a working dog. And most people don't listen to your instructions on care and training. They think Anatolians are just big sweet dogs that can be trained like any other dog. Then they come back and complain or the dog bites someone and is put down because the owners were not willing to learn about this breed and their total protectiveness. I guess I am just over protective of any puppy I sell. I have a policy to take back any dog I breed. Here in So CA I can only have a certain number of dogs on the property which makes keeping extra puppies and any returned dogs difficult.
Oh yes, and while it is not that important since we have a small place and 2 other trained Anatolians, she will be out of commission during a month of her late pregnancy and early lactation. Plus I will have to keep Rika away from Angel's whelping box area to avoid any fights. Bubba is less important in this regard since most Anatolian bitches will allow male Anatolians to "babysit" older pups. Surprisingly, male Anatolians like puppies and are very gentle with them, allowing them to crawl all over them, play with them. etc. In fact, male Anatolians are gentler and more patient with puppies than the pups own mothers! LOL She would whelp in the barn and my lambing jugs will be full around the time she would need a whelping area.
When we move to Texas, I promised Erick that I will do occasional breeding. He will take the pups at 3 months to place them He has a waiting list for pups and the huge weight of responsibility for proper placement will be off my shoulders.
Back to the Yelm property. Yesterday evening at 7:27 pm we cancelled with that horrible buyer and this morning at 9:18 am received a full price offer, no inspection (of course it has already passed 2 inspections), and a closing date of May 24. Another buyer is coming out tomorrow to look as well. Our agent, Jerry is asking if they want to come out and possibly submit a backup offer. We will accept this offer - "A bird in the hand is worth 2 in the bush" after all. While a bidding war would be nice (pure unadulterated greed on my part showing here!) I am happy with the full price offer and being able to finish the business. Hope it goes through.
DS1 left Thursday for Reno to enjoy a visit with his college buddy. DS2 and DDIL2 are both gone. We did have to pick up the grandkids from school on Thursday and Friday and keep them until around 6pm. They did their homework, then went and played. The house has been very quiet without everyone here. No huge meals to prepare and cleanup after. I have realized we can get by with a much smaller house when we move to Texas. Although we will miss our kids and grandkids, we won't need a huge house for entertaining everyone (or for housing everyone). I mentioned that to DH and he was not too happy about a smaller house, but he doesn't clean so . . . . A nice large living room, sizeable kitchen with a large dining area, 3 bedrooms, 2 bathrooms, and laundry room would be plenty. The 3rd bedroom would be used as an office. We could install a Murphy bed if necessary for guests. The house is so quiet and peaceful with everyone gone. I really didn't realize how much noise and confusion there was here all the time! Right now we have 5 bedrooms - all occupied, a 20 x 20 family room, large kitchen with eating area, and another formal living room and dining room which is seldom used but has all my valuable fragile heirloom stuff in it, the large laundry/utility room with 2 freezers, large refrigerator, and storage. I would like to give lots of those items to my children now but they don't seem to be that interested. I wanted to give my DD1 some antique needlepoint pictures and the framed Dresden 3D picture that my grandmother had in her room all my life but she declined. "Not her style". 7 year old DGD1 loved them and they went up in her room If they break, at least DGD1 loves them now and is enjoying them. I told DH that we could store a bunch of our stuff if necessary until DS2 and DDIL2 have their own place. Some of my lovely things I will take to the consignment store in Palm Springs. Most of the paintings, and a lot of my favorite items will come with me to Texas eventually.
Heading out to plant my tomatoes. Asked DH, without much hope, if he knew where the tomato cages were and HE DID! I will go out and get them in the ground this weekend so when (IF) we actually get rain on Monday they will get a nice soaking. I have to space them properly since sometimes I put them too close and then I have a hard time getting into the bushes for picking. I was able to get my favorites this year - Better Boy. Also got a couple Big Boy and 2 other beefsteak type that I put in the cart before finding the Better Boys. Mostly got Crookneck squash sets. Only one set of zuchini plants. The Crookneck come on earlier then finish sooner. They are our favorites. If we have to go to Texas for the month of June, I suppose we will miss most of the Crookneck squash, but the tomatoes and zuchini will go on through August and September. DDIL2 will pick them and water. If she can't, DH asked Miguel to do it and he will.
Just remembered - stopped my planting work to look on line for a garden electric fence! Forgot all about it when I saw the offer on Yelm.
I agree that Angel would produce excellent guardian dogs. And we would love to have puppies from Angel and Bubba, but I can get wonderful dogs from my friend who bred Rika Bubba, and Angel's mother. The price I pay for them has nothing to do with their registration papers, but everything to do with their guarding background. My friend, Erick, knows all their generations of ability, x-rays and tests them for medical/genetic problems, gives them early training, and is my backup and go-to guy for behavior problems. That is what I pay for. (Although he would help anyone with behavior problems in Anatolians or other guardian breeds.)
The main thing for me now is that raising a litter of good guardian puppies is EXPENSIVE. By the time I have Angel x-rayed, feed her during pregnancy, feed her during lactation, feed the growing litter, it will cost me as much as the check I will write to Erick! And with his experience he can judge how the puppies will turn out, what their guardian abilities will be, choose the right puppy for me, and begin the puppy's training himself.
AND THE HARDEST PART OF BREEDING DOGS IS FINDING GOOD BUYERS FOR MY PUPPIES! In good livestock homes. With people that actually know how to train livestock guardian dogs properly, understand all their peculiar behaviors, and not punish them for behaviors that the owners don't understand. Here in Southern California there are not so many people wanting LGDs so you have to weed out the people that want a pet from those wanting a working dog. And most people don't listen to your instructions on care and training. They think Anatolians are just big sweet dogs that can be trained like any other dog. Then they come back and complain or the dog bites someone and is put down because the owners were not willing to learn about this breed and their total protectiveness. I guess I am just over protective of any puppy I sell. I have a policy to take back any dog I breed. Here in So CA I can only have a certain number of dogs on the property which makes keeping extra puppies and any returned dogs difficult.
Oh yes, and while it is not that important since we have a small place and 2 other trained Anatolians, she will be out of commission during a month of her late pregnancy and early lactation. Plus I will have to keep Rika away from Angel's whelping box area to avoid any fights. Bubba is less important in this regard since most Anatolian bitches will allow male Anatolians to "babysit" older pups. Surprisingly, male Anatolians like puppies and are very gentle with them, allowing them to crawl all over them, play with them. etc. In fact, male Anatolians are gentler and more patient with puppies than the pups own mothers! LOL She would whelp in the barn and my lambing jugs will be full around the time she would need a whelping area.
When we move to Texas, I promised Erick that I will do occasional breeding. He will take the pups at 3 months to place them He has a waiting list for pups and the huge weight of responsibility for proper placement will be off my shoulders.
Back to the Yelm property. Yesterday evening at 7:27 pm we cancelled with that horrible buyer and this morning at 9:18 am received a full price offer, no inspection (of course it has already passed 2 inspections), and a closing date of May 24. Another buyer is coming out tomorrow to look as well. Our agent, Jerry is asking if they want to come out and possibly submit a backup offer. We will accept this offer - "A bird in the hand is worth 2 in the bush" after all. While a bidding war would be nice (pure unadulterated greed on my part showing here!) I am happy with the full price offer and being able to finish the business. Hope it goes through.
DS1 left Thursday for Reno to enjoy a visit with his college buddy. DS2 and DDIL2 are both gone. We did have to pick up the grandkids from school on Thursday and Friday and keep them until around 6pm. They did their homework, then went and played. The house has been very quiet without everyone here. No huge meals to prepare and cleanup after. I have realized we can get by with a much smaller house when we move to Texas. Although we will miss our kids and grandkids, we won't need a huge house for entertaining everyone (or for housing everyone). I mentioned that to DH and he was not too happy about a smaller house, but he doesn't clean so . . . . A nice large living room, sizeable kitchen with a large dining area, 3 bedrooms, 2 bathrooms, and laundry room would be plenty. The 3rd bedroom would be used as an office. We could install a Murphy bed if necessary for guests. The house is so quiet and peaceful with everyone gone. I really didn't realize how much noise and confusion there was here all the time! Right now we have 5 bedrooms - all occupied, a 20 x 20 family room, large kitchen with eating area, and another formal living room and dining room which is seldom used but has all my valuable fragile heirloom stuff in it, the large laundry/utility room with 2 freezers, large refrigerator, and storage. I would like to give lots of those items to my children now but they don't seem to be that interested. I wanted to give my DD1 some antique needlepoint pictures and the framed Dresden 3D picture that my grandmother had in her room all my life but she declined. "Not her style". 7 year old DGD1 loved them and they went up in her room If they break, at least DGD1 loves them now and is enjoying them. I told DH that we could store a bunch of our stuff if necessary until DS2 and DDIL2 have their own place. Some of my lovely things I will take to the consignment store in Palm Springs. Most of the paintings, and a lot of my favorite items will come with me to Texas eventually.
Heading out to plant my tomatoes. Asked DH, without much hope, if he knew where the tomato cages were and HE DID! I will go out and get them in the ground this weekend so when (IF) we actually get rain on Monday they will get a nice soaking. I have to space them properly since sometimes I put them too close and then I have a hard time getting into the bushes for picking. I was able to get my favorites this year - Better Boy. Also got a couple Big Boy and 2 other beefsteak type that I put in the cart before finding the Better Boys. Mostly got Crookneck squash sets. Only one set of zuchini plants. The Crookneck come on earlier then finish sooner. They are our favorites. If we have to go to Texas for the month of June, I suppose we will miss most of the Crookneck squash, but the tomatoes and zuchini will go on through August and September. DDIL2 will pick them and water. If she can't, DH asked Miguel to do it and he will.
Just remembered - stopped my planting work to look on line for a garden electric fence! Forgot all about it when I saw the offer on Yelm.