Ridgetop - our place and how we muddle along
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Ridgetop
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By the time we reach the top, they have gained about 50 lbs. each! 
Bruce
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Half way to market weight!
greybeard
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Magnifying glass?
Are you saying you can't look at a socket and tell it's size without looking at the numbers?
Can't distinguish a 9/16 from a 5/8 or a 3/4 from an 11/16?
You need to go get your eyeballs calibrated.
(for starters, 5/8 (wrenches and sockets) will be the ones you have most of, since that size is so rarely used they also rarely get lost or broken)
You can buy rails just about anywhere pretty cheaply..I've seen them in sets of 3 (1/4-3/8-1/2 drives) at autozone, advanced auto, O'Rielleys.
Are you saying you can't look at a socket and tell it's size without looking at the numbers?
Can't distinguish a 9/16 from a 5/8 or a 3/4 from an 11/16?
You need to go get your eyeballs calibrated.
(for starters, 5/8 (wrenches and sockets) will be the ones you have most of, since that size is so rarely used they also rarely get lost or broken)
You can buy rails just about anywhere pretty cheaply..I've seen them in sets of 3 (1/4-3/8-1/2 drives) at autozone, advanced auto, O'Rielleys.
babsbag
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My favorite sockets are a 1/2 and 9/16 deep. That is pretty much all I use anymore and that is for the hinges and latches on all the kidding pens and dog kennels. It must be someone else favorite size too, but for some other reason, as I keep buying new ones.
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Ridgetop
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No, Greybeard, what I can't tell are the sizes in increments of 1/32" and 1mm! The reason I need a magnifying glass is that some of these are old and worn, so I can't quite make out the sizes. I also want to get them into the right order on the rails so that the Socket King does not run out to buy more to fill the missing sizes. This has happened in the past. I have now sorted out the sockets in keep order by Proto, KS or whatever, and then Craftsman, withmany duplicates. I haven't decided if the duplicates will be kept or not. Probably depends in the size. Although the Crescent sockets are nice and shiny, and most of them have never been out of their plastic case, I am going to send them down the road as well. There is no USA stamp on them, and I went on line and found out that they are made out of the country so they will be going.
I have to buy rails for the remaining sockets:
31 1/4" base
29 1/2" base
56 3/8" base
A grand total of 116 sockets, with no duplicates!
This will be manageable. I see now that instead of ever buying sockets for DH, aka Socket King, I should have been buying rails. I wish I had known what socket rails were when I first married, but the only tools I knew about were hammer, slot and Phillips screwdrivers (not by those names), saw, tape measure, drill, level, metal ruler, razor blades for wallpapering; putty knives, spackle and basic painting tools. My level of expertise was hanging pictures, hanging wallpaper and painting.
Most of my tool and building knowledge has been acquired over the years working on projects. Daddy (father-in-law) taught me about cabinet making and installation, including drawing scale plans. DH and Daddy taught me a lot about basic construction renovating our homes. I taught myself how to lay ceramic tile and vinyl flooring from a book. Then I learned a ton about all kinds of building from the original HGTV series on repairs, and DIY while laid up doing chemo and radiation. Now HGTV all seems to be homes for sale or someone else doing renovations for people. Fun, but not as informative as the original stuff in early 2000. After that DH and I started renovating our apartment building - 7 units that hadn't been touched since they were built in 1964 - I learned all about standard code required clearances, sizes of appliances, sizes of stock cabinets, etc. I also started to buy tools in order to be able to do the work more efficiently and properly, including some specialized tools. "The proper tool for the job".
DH says I probably own more tools now than he does!
Except for sockets . . . .
I have to buy rails for the remaining sockets:
31 1/4" base
29 1/2" base
56 3/8" base
A grand total of 116 sockets, with no duplicates!
This will be manageable. I see now that instead of ever buying sockets for DH, aka Socket King, I should have been buying rails. I wish I had known what socket rails were when I first married, but the only tools I knew about were hammer, slot and Phillips screwdrivers (not by those names), saw, tape measure, drill, level, metal ruler, razor blades for wallpapering; putty knives, spackle and basic painting tools. My level of expertise was hanging pictures, hanging wallpaper and painting.
Most of my tool and building knowledge has been acquired over the years working on projects. Daddy (father-in-law) taught me about cabinet making and installation, including drawing scale plans. DH and Daddy taught me a lot about basic construction renovating our homes. I taught myself how to lay ceramic tile and vinyl flooring from a book. Then I learned a ton about all kinds of building from the original HGTV series on repairs, and DIY while laid up doing chemo and radiation. Now HGTV all seems to be homes for sale or someone else doing renovations for people. Fun, but not as informative as the original stuff in early 2000. After that DH and I started renovating our apartment building - 7 units that hadn't been touched since they were built in 1964 - I learned all about standard code required clearances, sizes of appliances, sizes of stock cabinets, etc. I also started to buy tools in order to be able to do the work more efficiently and properly, including some specialized tools. "The proper tool for the job".
DH says I probably own more tools now than he does!
Except for sockets . . . .
Baymule
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Roofing the barn should be pretty easy and get done in a few days. I was out of a job in my early 20's, couldn't find one, so took a roofing job. I thought I had been hot in my life! I knew nothing about being soaked in sweat by 8 AM. Naturally it was summer. I did learn how to tear off and replace roofs, which has been a great help to me.
Several years back, hurricane Ike dropped a massive elderly oak tree on our (old) house. We got ridiculous, price gouging quotes on it and I told my husband I would do it myself. I think I was in mid 50's...…. He told me I couldn't, I said I could. Argument ensued. Then the clincher-he said I was too old! THAT DID IT! I was going to roof our house no matter what, and I did. We got the structural damage fixed and I started looking for shingles.
All of a sudden, shingles were very popular and EXPENSIVE! I found seconds of Architectural shingles, but they were in a town 80 miles away-and they were out. A shipment was due in a few days and the man told me to pre-pay, which I refused to do. He said there might be some left, so I took my chances. Sure enough, after everybody picked up their shingles, there were some left. I told him I wanted 36 squares and was leaving to come get them. He actually had the nerve to tell me "First come, first serve." BOOM! I let him have it. "Let me tell you something! I'm driving 80 miles to come get these and you better hold them for me. If I drive all this way and you sell out before I get there, I am going to open up a Red Headed Six Pack Of WHUP-ASS all over you!" A quiet, "yes mam' I'll hold them for you. Ummm…..they knew who I was when I got there.....
I got there, paid for my order and got loaded up. They were seconds, the top of the tab had discolored granules on it, so what? Going to cover up the top of the tab anyway. they were $42 a square, a steal!
As I started for home, that's when I realized that the trailer I had was severely overloaded. I slowed down. Slowed down some more. To 40 MPH. I drove from Nederland, Tx to Livingston, Tx at 40 MPH, saying my prayers all the way, with a line of extremely pissed off people behind me. I made it. DH got home and saw the squished flat tires, he said "We got to get those shingles off the trailer! Look what they're doing to the tires!" "Go ahead," I smirked, I had already tried to move a bundle and it didn't budge. He grabbed a bundle and it didn't move. Those things were HEAVY. LOL
Upshot was, me and a guy from work worked on the weekends. We tore off the old shingles, replaced some roof decking and got the tar paper on. We shingled for 3 weekends and the roof turned out real nice. And getting the shingles up on the roof? Another guy from work came over after work and helped us. We busted each bundle into thirds. DH gave me a third, I was halfway up the ladder, went up the ladder to guy from work, he took the third of a bundle and placed it on the roof. Rinse, Repeat. Took 3 evenings.
While me and guy from work worked on the roof, DH threw us bottles of water, made sandwiches for our lunch and was a go-fer for new turbines, another roll of tar paper and so on.
The roof turned out beautiful.
Several years back, hurricane Ike dropped a massive elderly oak tree on our (old) house. We got ridiculous, price gouging quotes on it and I told my husband I would do it myself. I think I was in mid 50's...…. He told me I couldn't, I said I could. Argument ensued. Then the clincher-he said I was too old! THAT DID IT! I was going to roof our house no matter what, and I did. We got the structural damage fixed and I started looking for shingles.
All of a sudden, shingles were very popular and EXPENSIVE! I found seconds of Architectural shingles, but they were in a town 80 miles away-and they were out. A shipment was due in a few days and the man told me to pre-pay, which I refused to do. He said there might be some left, so I took my chances. Sure enough, after everybody picked up their shingles, there were some left. I told him I wanted 36 squares and was leaving to come get them. He actually had the nerve to tell me "First come, first serve." BOOM! I let him have it. "Let me tell you something! I'm driving 80 miles to come get these and you better hold them for me. If I drive all this way and you sell out before I get there, I am going to open up a Red Headed Six Pack Of WHUP-ASS all over you!" A quiet, "yes mam' I'll hold them for you. Ummm…..they knew who I was when I got there.....
I got there, paid for my order and got loaded up. They were seconds, the top of the tab had discolored granules on it, so what? Going to cover up the top of the tab anyway. they were $42 a square, a steal!
As I started for home, that's when I realized that the trailer I had was severely overloaded. I slowed down. Slowed down some more. To 40 MPH. I drove from Nederland, Tx to Livingston, Tx at 40 MPH, saying my prayers all the way, with a line of extremely pissed off people behind me. I made it. DH got home and saw the squished flat tires, he said "We got to get those shingles off the trailer! Look what they're doing to the tires!" "Go ahead," I smirked, I had already tried to move a bundle and it didn't budge. He grabbed a bundle and it didn't move. Those things were HEAVY. LOL
Upshot was, me and a guy from work worked on the weekends. We tore off the old shingles, replaced some roof decking and got the tar paper on. We shingled for 3 weekends and the roof turned out real nice. And getting the shingles up on the roof? Another guy from work came over after work and helped us. We busted each bundle into thirds. DH gave me a third, I was halfway up the ladder, went up the ladder to guy from work, he took the third of a bundle and placed it on the roof. Rinse, Repeat. Took 3 evenings.
While me and guy from work worked on the roof, DH threw us bottles of water, made sandwiches for our lunch and was a go-fer for new turbines, another roll of tar paper and so on.
The roof turned out beautiful.
greybeard
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Except for 1/4 drive sockets and equally little wrenches, nothing uses 1/32 increments (unless you are working on a very old Ford or something else with Whitworth sized bolt heads, then the 25/32 and 19/32 wrenches may have a use.
If, in your present capacity, you ever run across a wrench (Open or box) that looks sort of like this, with the size stamp that seems way too small, you have in your possession an old wrench made for and sized for Whitworth fasteners, tho early Ford flathead engines and other early Ford products also used some of them..
Instead of the size of the bolthead/nut being measured across the flat part and the tool stamped accordingly, the old way was to make the wrenches stamped according to the diameter of the threaded part of the bolt itself.
A 5/8" dia bolt would nowadays need a 15/16" wrench or socket.
Whitworth sized bolts/nuts were not that way.
And careful.......in the 2 examples below, each shows one that is not like the other and will cause a lot of cussin if the wrong one is used.
and, handy things to have these are....
especially if you're a monkey..
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Ridgetop
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Got all those tools and a few that I am not sure what they do. DH knows though, and since I don't use them, I really don't care what they do. I just need to find enough space to store them neatly, put them away, then label all the cabinets and storage boxes so we can find them later and more importantly know where to put them back!!!
Good going on roofing your house, Bay! A man should never tell a woman she is too dumb or too old! It gets our dander up and we show them what is what!
Sadly, we will have to do the roll roofing and melt down roofing and pay the roofer to do it.
DH and DS1 checked the pitch and said that it is too flat as well as having a different pitch on the rear half of the roof. Since this is winter, we will not have enough heat to "melt" the shingle tabs either. Almost lost one new shelter roof last winter in high winds because the new roof shingles had not had time to bake together and the shingles curled up from the wind. We had to replace a few shingles on that roof. DS1 was up on the roof and removed all the blown off roofing that was hanging. He also took down the false front peak which had partially blown down in the last windstorm that took our the tree. We expect more Santa Anas tonight. The smoke from the fires is blowing back into our Valley from the coast now that the winds have stopped. Ugh! It smells like a campfire everywhere and hard to breathe. Tomorrow DS1 will take the roofing trash to the dump.
I am waiting for the roofer to call for him to come out for an estimate. I wish we could do it ourselves but if has to be melted down with a blowtorch. We have never done the melt down roofing - we would probably set the barn on fire!
Surprisingly the solar panels and system that runs the power to the tool/workshop is intact and working. One panel got broken last year during the fire but there are still enough to charge the batteries and run the shop lights. After the roof goes on, DS1 wants to connect the barn lights to the solar panels too. Right now he is only running the Tool/Workshop lights of it. I would like him to connect the LED barn lights to the solar panels because we run the barn lights 24/7.
Moving the ewes into the barn tomorrow, Need to spread the straw bedding but might wait another day or so until closer to time to lamb. Also have to check the kidding box to make sure that everything is ready just in case. I have counters in the Tool/workshop now. I have actually seen them for myself. I knew they were there, just couldn't remember what they looked like. It has been a loooong time since I saw them last. I also found more cabinets and drawer banks than I remembered there being. YAY!
Good going on roofing your house, Bay! A man should never tell a woman she is too dumb or too old! It gets our dander up and we show them what is what!
Sadly, we will have to do the roll roofing and melt down roofing and pay the roofer to do it.
DH and DS1 checked the pitch and said that it is too flat as well as having a different pitch on the rear half of the roof. Since this is winter, we will not have enough heat to "melt" the shingle tabs either. Almost lost one new shelter roof last winter in high winds because the new roof shingles had not had time to bake together and the shingles curled up from the wind. We had to replace a few shingles on that roof. DS1 was up on the roof and removed all the blown off roofing that was hanging. He also took down the false front peak which had partially blown down in the last windstorm that took our the tree. We expect more Santa Anas tonight. The smoke from the fires is blowing back into our Valley from the coast now that the winds have stopped. Ugh! It smells like a campfire everywhere and hard to breathe. Tomorrow DS1 will take the roofing trash to the dump.
I am waiting for the roofer to call for him to come out for an estimate. I wish we could do it ourselves but if has to be melted down with a blowtorch. We have never done the melt down roofing - we would probably set the barn on fire!
Surprisingly the solar panels and system that runs the power to the tool/workshop is intact and working. One panel got broken last year during the fire but there are still enough to charge the batteries and run the shop lights. After the roof goes on, DS1 wants to connect the barn lights to the solar panels too. Right now he is only running the Tool/Workshop lights of it. I would like him to connect the LED barn lights to the solar panels because we run the barn lights 24/7.
Moving the ewes into the barn tomorrow, Need to spread the straw bedding but might wait another day or so until closer to time to lamb. Also have to check the kidding box to make sure that everything is ready just in case. I have counters in the Tool/workshop now. I have actually seen them for myself. I knew they were there, just couldn't remember what they looked like. It has been a loooong time since I saw them last. I also found more cabinets and drawer banks than I remembered there being. YAY!
Bruce
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So there will be cabinets and boxes labeled "I don't know what these are" and he is supposed to know what things you don't know what they are so he looks in the appropriate place?
Have you thought about metal roof panels? Not hard to put up. BTW, the gasketed screws go into the deck, not the overlapping ridges. Saw that on a YouTube video done by a roofing company. The guy said that is the most common mistake made by DIYers.
