Roll Farms - Herdstock is over, and I'm feeling hung over, lol

[autumnprairie]

He also offered me my 'choice' on 3 does....there was one who was 'flashier', but she's 4 teated....I went w/ the 2 teater.

She is beautiful and you chose the same way I would have. The breeder has proven himself in everyway it counts health, stock, and in the ring. Sounds like to me you are getting a great deal, Congrats Rolls

 

[Queen Mum]

I don't want to anger you with my disagreement. And clearly you want support for your decision. So it is your choice. But this is how I see things. I'm a logic driven person. I don't understand the logic. I know a lot of very wealthy people who would NEVER spend that kind of money, because it doesn't make fiscal sense. It seems more of a status thing than a reasoned financial transaction that brings value to your overall stock.

A chair is a chair. You sit in it. A pretty chair is worth a better price. A well built chair is worth even more. But a well built pretty chair with a fancy name is worth really NO more than an ordinary pretty well built chair with an ordinary name. BUT people will for some odd reason pay absurdly high prices for it. And people pay a TON of money to sit on something made by some famous designer when all they are going to do is sit on it.

Are they really prettier and better built than ANY ONE ELSE's goats? Do his goats have better tasting meat? Do they have healthier babies? Are they really going to give you more babies? Are the mamas going to consistently give you more does when you need them? Will they be more disease free? Will the mamas be better mothers? Will the bucklings sell better? Do they have better temperaments?

So, yes, the breeder is price gouging. Price gouging is charging more than the real value of the animal. The baby has only a potential value until she is proven. PERIOD.

And while the the breeder did work hard to get his papers and while he shows his goats all over he clearly does so in order to charge high prices AND so he can say he is a winner. He's made his name. HE doesn't have to go any further and he doesn't have to charge you those high prices. He has other options. What he really has is pretty well built goats.

So this is MY last word on the matter.

 

[Roll farms]

We're all entitled to our opinions, Queen Mum.
I have lots of them, too....I've just learned there are times I need to keep mine to myself.

I'm not angry. You don't know him.
You can judge him if you want, but...he's always been fair, honest, and helpful to me.
I DO know him. The way he's treated us, and treats his animals, is enough for me to say he's a good person, with good business practices.

The fact is, I didn't ask what you, or anyone else, thought about my buying her, I was sharing the irony of my luck....
"Gee whiz, I wouldn't have bought these 2 if I'da known I had a shot at this one."

Along w/ my joy at having a chance to get something I've been wanting for quite some time - a 2- teated, black spotted / dappled doeling I can disbud / bottle raise, out of good breeding stock.

My point is, I've been a big girl who does what she wants for quite some time.
I guess I could understand your insistence that I'm wrong / he's wrong / you're right more if I'd asked in the first place.

But, I didn't.

 

[ThreeBoysChicks]

I just wanted to say ome more time, she is BEAUTIFUL !!!!!!!!!!!!!! When you picking her up?

 

[Queen Mum]

It's not about being right or wrong. It's about opinions. If it was about being right or wrong, then you would also be the one thinking you are right wouldn't you? Because you think you are right in order to convince yourself that this baby is worth $1500. That's fine. I accept that. Lots of people do that.

You are a decent farmer. You are a decent human being. You are a hard working person. And you deserve to get your money's worth. IF you think you are getting your money's worth then so be it. PAY what you want for spots and for a baby that is unproven. I hope for your sake, you get your money's worth from that baby. She sure is cute. She sure is pretty. I wish you the best of luck.

 

[Roll farms]

QM, I just *knew* you'd come back for another "Last word" on the matter.....


FWIW, she's NOT $1500.00....I keep saying that but you're missing it, I guess.

I bought a 'proven' doe last year from a buyer that I did NOT know, who freshened w/ mastitis, and I later sold her at a huge loss. "Proven" is only as good as the seller's word.

This really will be my last post on the subject of the breeder / whether or not I'm getting my money's worth.
It's sort of taking the fun out of getting her...and I wasn't asking if I should in the first place.

TBC, weather permitting, he's meeting us in Toledo, OH on Sunday morning.
And I'm now picking up 2 spotted darlings....one for me, one for a friend....and he's knocking $200.00 off the total since I'm buying 2 now.

 

[elevan]

Toledo?

Darn...too far away!

If you ever get into more the Central Ohio area let me know and we can meet up to chat for a few

 

[redtailgal]

She should swing by NC on her way to Toledo.

It's not that far out of the way.....

 

[Roll farms]

She should swing by NC on her way to Toledo.

It's not that far out of the way.....

And let me guess....while I'm there, the baby will miraculously disappear.....? Will you blame Plato, or Socrates???

Em, the breeder lives N. of Cleveland....I drove through that town once to get to his place....never.ever.again. I will def. look you up if ever I'm over your way.

 

[autumnprairie]

She should swing by NC on her way to Toledo.

It's not that far out of the way.....

I know make a huge circle and come get all of us