Mike CHS
Herd Master
If anyone besides me got a smile out of that story it's your own fault for being so descriptive.
SBC/GW's Journal- Spring shows DONE! & Update
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If anyone besides me got a smile out of that story it's your own fault for being so descriptive.
Bruce
Herd Master
@Southern by choice You and DD1. She can't stand spiders, not even little tiny transparent ones I can't see until she points RIGHT at it and pretty close up. That is so I can take it outside of course.
goat raisers get nervous when things aren't going to plan.
And with all the years of experience you have had. Good for newbies to see that even
goat raisers get nervous when things aren't going to plan.How far? Is she going to get all the way up here?
Wehner Homestead
Herd Master
I don’t, can’t, and won’t do rats. Had one hiss in my face when I went one papaw’s barn for a brush when I was about six as it was on the shelf. Now it’s a big NO!
Spiders don’t bother me. Snakes don’t bother me. I’m trying to teach my children to be tolerant (similar to SBC.) DH was raised with a mother that is terrified of snakes and now he won’t touch them and they give him the “willies!” (Eye roll!) He ran over one on the road once (on accident) and I had to finish it off and move it off the road.
I will respect your fear of spiders though as I know you’ll respect my fear of rats. (Can I add that my barn has none? I have 8 cats and 5 dogs! Lol)
I did find it entertaining that you passed out while the vet was there. Though more in the sense of now you have to explain that and I wondered if the vet was trying to figure out how to doctor you???
Spiders don’t bother me. Snakes don’t bother me. I’m trying to teach my children to be tolerant (similar to SBC.) DH was raised with a mother that is terrified of snakes and now he won’t touch them and they give him the “willies!” (Eye roll!) He ran over one on the road once (on accident) and I had to finish it off and move it off the road.
I will respect your fear of spiders though as I know you’ll respect my fear of rats. (Can I add that my barn has none? I have 8 cats and 5 dogs! Lol)
I did find it entertaining that you passed out while the vet was there. Though more in the sense of now you have to explain that and I wondered if the vet was trying to figure out how to doctor you???
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Southern by choice
Herd Master
Well, as you all know I have only been poking my head in one in awhile.
Kidding season has been great but really crazy busy. We also have so many other things going on that it has been just really tiring.
We have been blessed with some really great kids this year and we are really happy with the results of the planned breedings.
We have started on official milk test.
That has been wild.
First test came right after GW was gone, machine broke, all he goats started plummetting so the test was fair, not great but fair. Second test was better.
Our Nigies seem to not want to milk this year. Last year we had a hard time with the Lamanchas, this year it is reversed. We are thinking of pulling a few goats and letting them dry off and rebreed in a a few months. Lamanchas are doing great, some maybe a little to great as they are pouring everything in the pail. Some need weight on them but no matter what you give they put it in the pail.
I can share more about that later.
We are getting a few goats ready for the shows.
Do you guys remember our August babies? They were born on the eclipse. Totality and TTL Eclipse are out of Carolina Girl. The sire was Isaac.
Bare with me because I am gonna do a bit of a boasty post. These are @Goat Whisperer 's goats not mine BUT we have both been talking and we just never get on to say much.
We were blessed with Isaac. Isaac is "One Fine Acre FR Isaac". @OneFineAcre a big shout out to you!
Guys I have to say how excited we are about the kids out of these breedings! So far we have used LIL Joe and Isaac... both bring something to the table. Lil Joe keeps height down and brings in width. My guess was Isaac would bring in a bit more "dairy" on our heavy wide girls and would lock in the teat placement and keep the udder good. Ruth has a beautiful udder and great teats, we don't want to lose that.
Anyway... Isaac is sire to Peanut (Red Hot) he was also bred to Lucy which produced Lemon Chiffon. We repeated that and now have Lemon Drop. He was bred to Carolina Girl and Clover giving us Totality and Eclipse.
This blend of the two types are in our opinion really looking nice.
Can't wait til @OneFineAcre sees them at the shows. I really think you will like them OFA! I think the girls are going to do some great things over time and it is nice to give credit where credit is due. Isaac has done well!
I need to get more pics but here is TTL Eclipse 8 months old, getting clipped for show.
I don't know how she will do at the shows, so many amazing animals there but we really like this doe!
in process-
Taking a break
Walking around- still have to do hooves.
Before- we weren't sure if there was a real goat under there!
This is Lemon Chiffon- She was the only goat last year that didn't earn her dry leg- Reserve but lost to her sisters.
She isn't clipped down here just roughed in (meaning skimmed but not fully shaved down)
Maybe tomorrow I can show Totality and Peanut (Red Hot)
Kidding season has been great but really crazy busy. We also have so many other things going on that it has been just really tiring.
We have been blessed with some really great kids this year and we are really happy with the results of the planned breedings.
We have started on official milk test.
That has been wild.
First test came right after GW was gone, machine broke, all he goats started plummetting so the test was fair, not great but fair. Second test was better.
Our Nigies seem to not want to milk this year. Last year we had a hard time with the Lamanchas, this year it is reversed. We are thinking of pulling a few goats and letting them dry off and rebreed in a a few months. Lamanchas are doing great, some maybe a little to great as they are pouring everything in the pail. Some need weight on them but no matter what you give they put it in the pail.
I can share more about that later.
We are getting a few goats ready for the shows.
Do you guys remember our August babies? They were born on the eclipse. Totality and TTL Eclipse are out of Carolina Girl. The sire was Isaac.
Bare with me because I am gonna do a bit of a boasty post.
These are @Goat Whisperer 's goats not mine BUT we have both been talking and we just never get on to say much.We were blessed with Isaac. Isaac is "One Fine Acre FR Isaac". @OneFineAcre a big shout out to you!
Guys I have to say how excited we are about the kids out of these breedings! So far we have used LIL Joe and Isaac... both bring something to the table. Lil Joe keeps height down and brings in width. My guess was Isaac would bring in a bit more "dairy" on our heavy wide girls and would lock in the teat placement and keep the udder good. Ruth has a beautiful udder and great teats, we don't want to lose that.
Anyway... Isaac is sire to Peanut (Red Hot) he was also bred to Lucy which produced Lemon Chiffon. We repeated that and now have Lemon Drop. He was bred to Carolina Girl and Clover giving us Totality and Eclipse.
This blend of the two types are in our opinion really looking nice.
Can't wait til @OneFineAcre sees them at the shows. I really think you will like them OFA! I think the girls are going to do some great things over time and it is nice to give credit where credit is due. Isaac has done well!
I need to get more pics but here is TTL Eclipse 8 months old, getting clipped for show.
I don't know how she will do at the shows, so many amazing animals there but we really like this doe!
in process-
Taking a break
Walking around- still have to do hooves.
Before- we weren't sure if there was a real goat under there!
This is Lemon Chiffon- She was the only goat last year that didn't earn her dry leg- Reserve but lost to her sisters.
She isn't clipped down here just roughed in (meaning skimmed but not fully shaved down)
Maybe tomorrow I can show Totality and Peanut (Red Hot)
OneFineAcre
Herd Master
Our best up and coming goats aren't out of our absolute best does
They are out of some of our really good does bred to bucks out of our best does
I'm so happy that you seem to be getting good results from Isaac
I'm even happier that he is at a great farm with a great family and is loved and cherished
I look forward to seeing his daughters in the show ring ( as reserve grand champion behind my grand champion)
Seriously, I look forward to the day we get beat by one of our own goats or a daughter of one of our bucks
They are out of some of our really good does bred to bucks out of our best does
I'm so happy that you seem to be getting good results from Isaac
I'm even happier that he is at a great farm with a great family and is loved and cherished
I look forward to seeing his daughters in the show ring ( as reserve grand champion behind my grand champion
)Seriously, I look forward to the day we get beat by one of our own goats or a daughter of one of our bucks
Bruce
Herd Master
Nice pants, how much extra did you have to pay to get the "pre stressed" ones?
OneFineAcre
Herd Master
Nice wide, level rumps
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Southern by choice
Herd Master
@OneFineAcre I finished Lemon today- she is 14 months now. She is the one not out of Ruth, but Lucy. Lucy is a very long wide doe, and nice and short lol
Isaac's daughter too. We repeated that breeding this year.
LOL she was acting like she was going to go in the ring, had her game face on.
@Bruce those are designer jeans (above) they are like $160 ... they are the new thing, to buy jeans cut up and worked in. We saved $120 and they just got worked in. Hey we all have our favorite jeans, favorite boots, favorite sweatshirt, and me, favorite jammies!
Isaac's daughter too. We repeated that breeding this year.
LOL she was acting like she was going to go in the ring, had her game face on.
@Bruce those are designer jeans (above) they are like $160 ... they are the new thing, to buy jeans cut up and worked in. We saved $120 and they just got worked in.
Hey we all have our favorite jeans, favorite boots, favorite sweatshirt, and me, favorite jammies!- Thread starter
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Southern by choice
Herd Master
I will have to post more later but just wanted to share about being on test. (Milk test)
Volume and weighing is easy and anyone can do that, heck you don't need to go on test for that.
Most are on test to qualify for a milkstar which is great but more importantly is the data you get.
I can say that I am really really glad we are doing test this year. It may have explained a few things, to include why we almost lost Ruby and Jane last year.
I am going to try and do a full post elsewhere but meanwhile the data has shown us so much and it looks like we need to make some real changes in our feed... and quick.
I feel like we can get ahead of potential issues. Looking at everything it is showing me that WOW we can do a,b,c BEFORE it becomes a problem because once it becomes a problem you really can have a near dying goat. I am a data person so this has been great and a real eye opener. I get to see each individual goat's data and through that I see 3 goats that have to have their protein reduced. 1 that we need to figure out why SCC (somatic cell count) is high. We will be sending out a "clean catch" milk sample, freezing it and shipping with cold pack overnight.
Without the data we would have had no idea UNTIL something went terribly wrong and you know how that can be... it is like trying to find a needle in a haystack.
Typically if a goat is a bit thin what do we do? Try to increase fats and feed a bit to get them to gain weight. If we were to do this with 2 of the goats they would indeed crash.
Most of the time all I ever see or read about is the "star" aspect and # produced etc...
I see a lot of goats out there with metabolic issues and always wonder why. The Nigerians never have issues lol. It's the big goats that seem to have more issues. Why?
After seeing some of the info I am beginning to see how this can happen. It is all very fascinating. I also was not really aware that any herd can go on test, you don't have to be connected with a registry, have registered goats etc. I guess I never really looked into it so in my ignorance I assumed you couldn't. You know what they same about assuming!
Volume and weighing is easy and anyone can do that, heck you don't need to go on test for that.
Most are on test to qualify for a milkstar which is great but more importantly is the data you get.
I can say that I am really really glad we are doing test this year. It may have explained a few things, to include why we almost lost Ruby and Jane last year.
I am going to try and do a full post elsewhere but meanwhile the data has shown us so much and it looks like we need to make some real changes in our feed... and quick.
I feel like we can get ahead of potential issues. Looking at everything it is showing me that WOW we can do a,b,c BEFORE it becomes a problem because once it becomes a problem you really can have a near dying goat. I am a data person so this has been great and a real eye opener. I get to see each individual goat's data and through that I see 3 goats that have to have their protein reduced. 1 that we need to figure out why SCC (somatic cell count) is high. We will be sending out a "clean catch" milk sample, freezing it and shipping with cold pack overnight.
Without the data we would have had no idea UNTIL something went terribly wrong and you know how that can be... it is like trying to find a needle in a haystack.
Typically if a goat is a bit thin what do we do? Try to increase fats and feed a bit to get them to gain weight. If we were to do this with 2 of the goats they would indeed crash.
Most of the time all I ever see or read about is the "star" aspect and # produced etc...
I see a lot of goats out there with metabolic issues and always wonder why. The Nigerians never have issues lol. It's the big goats that seem to have more issues. Why?
After seeing some of the info I am beginning to see how this can happen. It is all very fascinating. I also was not really aware that any herd can go on test, you don't have to be connected with a registry, have registered goats etc. I guess I never really looked into it so in my ignorance I assumed you couldn't. You know what they same about assuming!
Bayleaf Meadows
True BYH Addict
"...Most are on test to qualify for a milkstar which is great but more importantly is the data you get.
I can say that I am really really glad we are doing test this year. It may have explained a few things, to include why we almost lost Ruby and Jane last year.
I am going to try and do a full post elsewhere but meanwhile the data has shown us so much and it looks like we need to make some real changes in our feed... and quick..."
Sounds like you are getting the most from your testing!
I can say that I am really really glad we are doing test this year. It may have explained a few things, to include why we almost lost Ruby and Jane last year.
I am going to try and do a full post elsewhere but meanwhile the data has shown us so much and it looks like we need to make some real changes in our feed... and quick..."
Sounds like you are getting the most from your testing!
