Chris Stelzer
Exploring the pasture
WOW, there are some fantastic looking dogs here! I love how each dog has a different personality. Thanks for sharing
I do not like shock collars neither and they can be dangerous --one needs to know what they are doing -- the dog can get across on the outside and be afraid to come back through getting killed on the road or something. Only a very smart, fenced- trained dog should use them. My dog despised a couple of my neighbors and would chase them all the way to their house -- one has to pass my home to get to his home on a dirt road (he has an easement through my property) -- my big mongrel dog hated that so she'd go after him. He started shooting at her feet and told me the next time, he would kill her -- so the shock collar was my only fast & real option. My dog is a survivor, lived on her own and is very smart. It took a few minutes only to train her. She got shocked only once. She obeys it even if it goes down a few days. After about a week of it being down though, she knows it is down and sneaks out. Lightening hits it sometimes or we clip it accidently or something. It works for her. She is independent and would go where she wants to. My neighbor was lazy -- he could have been her friend. The neighbor does not like dogs or any animal so there was no working it out. My dog sensed this from the get-go, and she hates him. She is the soul of my place and I don't want her shot. Mainly due to her, I don't lose any birds and I have about 70 chickens & 8 geese free ranging, cows, the donkey and a couple of mules. The geese stay out 24/7 and 4 of them are 5+ years old. I have a couple of hens 8+ years old and others 5.6 & 7 years. They still lay.Southern by Choice: I am not a fan of shock collars. They can be a training tool if used properly. Sadly many do not know how to use them properly and often ruin their dog or end up causing other behavioral issues. Most commonly I see the shock collars used, not as a last resort, but because often people are simply lazy and do not want to have time to work with the dog. I have never found the need for one. I am not completely against them just feel they are often not really needed. LGD's are highly intelligent breds and many will often figure out very quickly when the shock collar is on and when it's not.