Sick Doeling

[SaraMerida]

Well really f*ed that up... I have started an IV and called the vet (since last night). I am giving subq lactated ringer. Her breath sounds are clear but I do note a small amount of mucus from her nose. She is breathing mugs hollowed then normal. I sent my husband for pediatric oral iron and vitamin b injections. The vet is still "in the way." Her abdomen doesn't seem more distended then normal. Also, I am in a rural area of Mexico. I don't know the names of things in Spanish... C&d antotoxin?

 

[luvmypets]

Well really f*ed that up... I have started an IV and called the vet (since last night). I am giving subq lactated ringer. Her breath sounds are clear but I do note a small amount of mucus from her nose. She is breathing mugs hollowed then normal. I sent my husband for pediatric oral iron and vitamin b injections. The vet is still "in the way." Her abdomen doesn't seem more distended then normal. Also, I am in a rural area of Mexico. I don't know the names of things in Spanish... C&d antotoxin?

Has there been any major temp change? How's her temp? I might suspect pnuemonia, it happened to my ewe over the summer. She had nasal discharge, seperated herself from her kids(lambs that are 1 yr apaart) and wouldn't eat. This is coming from a ewe who was/still is a little piggy. Is it possible that is what she has?

 

[SaraMerida]

I gave her baking soda and carbonated probiotic drink. I forced her to stand for a few seconds but she can't on her own. Her left side does sound distended. She bleated a little. The husband is going to milk the mom, do you think we should give her some of moms milk?

 

[SaraMerida]

In humans, I would hear odd lung sounds with pneumonia, which I don't on her. Anything is possible. No temperature changes.

 

[frustratedearthmother]

The four parts actually have different names:

The primary difference between a ruminant and nonruminant is that ruminants have a four-compartment stomach. The four parts are the rumen, reticulum, omasum, and abomasum. In the first two chambers, the rumen and the reticulum, the food is mixed with saliva and separates into layers of solid and liquid material.

 

[luvmypets]

The four parts actually have different names:

The primary difference between a ruminant and nonruminant is that ruminants have a four-compartment stomach. The four parts are the rumen, reticulum, omasum, and abomasum. In the first two chambers, the rumen and the reticulum, the food is mixed with saliva and separates into layers of solid and liquid material.

I actually posted a more detailed explanation while someone quoted my post LOL. Always good to refresh my memory tho

 

[SaraMerida]

Shes having seizures now. In humans that's a sign that death is probably imminent due to higher urea in the blood. Is that a things with goats too? I am so sad. I feel like this was something so basic that I should have known.

 

[SaraMerida]

This is her... The vet called and said he was coming soon but I'm sure it's too late now. I'm glad the kids are at school. I'm just so upset. Poor baby girl...

 

[Latestarter]

It's one stomach with four compartments. The word "ruminant" comes from the Latin ruminare, which means "to chew over again". So they call the stomach a rumin in general, where it's actually the designation of the first chamber where the cud is primarily regurgitated from.

As for the bloat issue, I believe the way it works is: the chicken feed turns the stomach acidic which knocks the PH out of balance (low) causing the rumin to "shut down" and the fermentation gasses build up with no place to go and the stomach expands... Baking soda lowers the acidity to raise PH (alkalinity) to get the rumin started back up again. Much the same as when we have acid indigestion and get gas, but we can burp, and take antacids (baking soda) to lower acid and raise alkalinity (PH).

Others can explain ways to determine if she's bloating or not. There are several ways to try and determine and since I've never experienced it, I'll leave it to the pros.

Giving anything carbonated and baking soda at the same time is counter productive. The baking soda is to lower acidity and help remove the gas. If she's bloated, she won't want to eat/drink and add even more to her already distended stomach. If you put your ear to her left side you should/may be able to "hear" if her rumin is working...

 

[SaraMerida]

I hear nothing in her left side