jodief100
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The only reason the empty calories are cheaper is because the government subsidizes corn production and processed corn products.
So... Our future food shortage -
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The only reason the empty calories are cheaper is because the government subsidizes corn production and processed corn products.
jodief100
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And food shortages is not what is going to kill us. Fresh water is going to be the limiting resource.
OneFineAcre
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Yep, I referred to that when I said that politicians were to blame for world hunger.
But, the US subsidizes farmers much less than in Western Europe and Japan.
No!! Thats a mcdouble not a double cheeseburger!! 
(haha coming from the mcdonalds employee). And the reason salads are around $5 each when you can get a mcdouble for $1.29 is the ingredients are fresher. People dont want brown or freezer burned salads but they dont mind eating burgers cooked from frozen meat.
(haha coming from the mcdonalds employee). And the reason salads are around $5 each when you can get a mcdouble for $1.29 is the ingredients are fresher. People dont want brown or freezer burned salads but they dont mind eating burgers cooked from frozen meat.
OneFineAcre
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You are correct although you may be the only person on here who knows the differenceNo!! Thats a mcdouble not a double cheeseburger!!
OneFineAcre
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No!! Thats a mcdouble not a double cheeseburger!!
Just think if Washington's men at Valley Forge had two of those per day with their ration
We would have won the war much sooner
babsbag
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Actually 390 calories for a meal is not that bad, and I bet that most of those calories are in the bun. They need a whole wheat option for the bun.
I can buy a McDouble for a $1.00. Pretty cheap lunch. Hold the fries and the soda and I don't even feel guilty
I can buy a McDouble for a $1.00. Pretty cheap lunch. Hold the fries and the soda and I don't even feel guilty
Pearce Pastures
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I can't stomach that anymore. Used to be no problem. I don't know if it is age or just that I have a fussy digestive system or maybe I am spoiled on homegrown food but I get sick every time we are on the run and swing by for a cheap burger.I dunno about the government thing and I'm not saying all government is bad---it is sure worse other places. But I do get upset when I read about things like the Michigan laws that recently changed, making it hard or impossible to be a small time farmer or hobbyist or to just teach kids hands on where food comes from.
alsea1
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The more government controls food the easier it is to control you.
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I can't even remember the last time I ate a MacDonalds 
Anyway...
The referrals to large animals and grain are more to do with the amount of water & nutrients required to grow it. The theory is that in the future there will no be enough.
The vegans & vegatarians are incorrect in their belief that if everyone turns to a plant based diet, that it will make a difference. Wheat requires a lot of water & runoff to thrive. Also, you are still killing millions of small animals & insects everytime you toil a field.
Meat is nutritionally higher & you do not need to destroy large areas of space (as you do with grain & large livestock) to harvest it (as we all know). Wildlife can live alongside domestic animals as the garden blackbird & "quail" keep proving as they hang around together on the grass ("You'd better not catch anything!")
Technically you can get all of your nutrition from meat (if you eat the organs etc to). A plant based diet still requires vitimans B12 & additional calcium + iron to survive & thrive on.
Vitamin B12 is only found in meat foods from animals to bacteria. So, some meat is certainly healthy for us, but now it is not the way it has to be in this day & age (I think the vegans are right on that one.)
There is much more to it than simply the world governments, there is the land. Only so much % of it is suitable for agricultural purposes & we are currently using most of it. The rest is either protected wilderness or unsuitable due to soil drainage or other issues. So it's the environmental impact to consider to. Currently 60% of our world population of animals is going or has gone extinct since 1975 & most of them are because of agricultural practices & human housing developers. Our fences etc design a maze which our wildlife cannot navigate very well.
Building houses over current agricultural land is also happening faster than it is being replaced.
Also the agricultural practises are very damaging, but the governments & food agencies do not believe organic farming is sustainable in the long term on large farms.
They seem to think it is only sustainable on small farms or in backyard farming, but not suitable to feed the world. There are tests being carried out proving otherwise, but they are still sitting tight like ducks on this one.
They say they have no answers - I do. I say - lets all grow organic in our homes & gardens. Let vegans only grow vegatables & fruit & omnivores keep rabbits, chickens, quail & whatever other small suitable animals they can cook up (literally).
Now, explaining to the general public why there will have to be change 25 - 50 years down the line is another matter. I don't think anyone would listen money is the priority until it becomes useless.
Scientists did do the lab grown steak, but personally I'm not keen on it
Anyway, come on people - would you live without big meat or not?
And to the people who replied yes & no already, thankyou for your answers.
Can you do votes on BYH....?
Anyway...
The referrals to large animals and grain are more to do with the amount of water & nutrients required to grow it. The theory is that in the future there will no be enough.
The vegans & vegatarians are incorrect in their belief that if everyone turns to a plant based diet, that it will make a difference. Wheat requires a lot of water & runoff to thrive. Also, you are still killing millions of small animals & insects everytime you toil a field.
Meat is nutritionally higher & you do not need to destroy large areas of space (as you do with grain & large livestock) to harvest it (as we all know). Wildlife can live alongside domestic animals as the garden blackbird & "quail" keep proving as they hang around together on the grass ("You'd better not catch anything!")
Technically you can get all of your nutrition from meat (if you eat the organs etc to). A plant based diet still requires vitimans B12 & additional calcium + iron to survive & thrive on.
Vitamin B12 is only found in meat foods from animals to bacteria. So, some meat is certainly healthy for us, but now it is not the way it has to be in this day & age (I think the vegans are right on that one.)
There is much more to it than simply the world governments, there is the land. Only so much % of it is suitable for agricultural purposes & we are currently using most of it. The rest is either protected wilderness or unsuitable due to soil drainage or other issues. So it's the environmental impact to consider to. Currently 60% of our world population of animals is going or has gone extinct since 1975 & most of them are because of agricultural practices & human housing developers. Our fences etc design a maze which our wildlife cannot navigate very well.
Building houses over current agricultural land is also happening faster than it is being replaced.
Also the agricultural practises are very damaging, but the governments & food agencies do not believe organic farming is sustainable in the long term on large farms.
They seem to think it is only sustainable on small farms or in backyard farming, but not suitable to feed the world. There are tests being carried out proving otherwise, but they are still sitting tight like ducks on this one.
They say they have no answers - I do. I say - lets all grow organic in our homes & gardens. Let vegans only grow vegatables & fruit & omnivores keep rabbits, chickens, quail & whatever other small suitable animals they can cook up (literally).
Now, explaining to the general public why there will have to be change 25 - 50 years down the line is another matter. I don't think anyone would listen
money is the priority until it becomes useless.Scientists did do the lab grown steak, but personally I'm not keen on it
Anyway, come on people - would you live without big meat or not?
And to the people who replied yes & no already, thankyou for your answers.Can you do votes on BYH....?
