Straw Hat Kikos

[Straw Hat Kikos]

@Southern
Yep. It kills me when people do that too. If an animal is not worth breeding then it shouldn't be bred. Plain and simple.
And yes I will contact the breeder here shortly.

@Marlow
Thanks. Honestly it isn't very hard. I told myself when I got into goats that I will cull all animals that are not worth breeding. He would bring the breeding program down so he needs to go. Doesn't mean that I don't feel bad for him and it doesn't stink that he has to die because I do feel bad for him and it does stink.
I was not going to look for a buck but I did happen to come across one that I may get. Still talking with them and getting info on him but he seems pretty good so far. We'll see I guess. He's only had one hoof trimming in a year and only been wormed once.

 

[Straw Hat Kikos]

@PendergrassRanch
Now you know. haha

 

[bonbean01]

Sorry about Caleb...I understand your reasons, but it still sucks

 

[Alice Acres]

Darn, sorry about that.
It's hard, but with him being a buck and contributing 50% of the genetics to the flock, it's gotta be done. I'm glad you found a workable solution too.

 

[jodief100]

Straw- I understand. I had to cull two of my favorite does this year becasue of worm issues. If you don't then they will be dropping resistant worms all over your pastures and that isn't good for the entire herd.

Its tough but it is the right thing to do.

 

[Straw Hat Kikos]

Thank you all and I'm glad you all understand. I was hoping nobody would come on here and ask me not too. But I knew ya'll understand the way things go and how 'farming' works.

Jodie -- Exactly. One of my goat 'sayings' (and it is true too!!) is that 20% or your herd carries 80% of the internal parasites. If everyone out there got rid of that 20% we'd have much better goats out there!! That's what I want to do. I want to breed the best goats I can.


I will update you guys on the possible replacement buck as I talk to the owner and original breeder and get info on him. If I do go see him I'll be bringing the microscope and do a surprise fecal!! lol

 

[marlowmanor]

We may end up in the same predicament with Bailey. We are giving her a shot here with breeding her. She has a rough kidding history and knowing it we are prepared to help if needed. We have already decided that if she has issues kidding this time that we will sell her to a pet only home. After reading your post though I may be able to sell her as a meat goat. It would kill me to do it since she is a gorgeous goat, but we have also decided that if she gives us a doeling we will likely keep the doeling and sell her. I hate the thought of selling her but we are trying to make a profitable goat business, although pretty small scale and we can't afford to have a doe that has trouble kidding and/or is not a good mother. But we are giving her a shot and seeing if being older and in good condition makes a difference with her kidding and being a mom.

As for parasite resistance. Our goats seem to be pretty resistant. Our wethers have not been wormed in over a year. We had to do some worming on Bailey when we first got her to get her back in good shape but haven't had to since then. Dixie was wormed a month before we got her at previous owners and we don't plan on worming unless we have to with her as well. After reading all the threads on doing your own fecals I'm getting tempted to see about doing it here. DH refuses to take fecals to the vet, he rolls his eyes at me anytime I mention it, so doing them here would be quite convenient and all I've read says it would be pretty simple. Just have to convince DH we need a microscope.

 

[Straw Hat Kikos]

I've got some good news. No it's not about the buck but about the goats I already have here. I've always kept track of weights but never did them on a set time and didn't keep track of dates. Well I've decided to keep track and record all that now. I last weighted the Kikos 16 days ago (had to back here. lol) and I hadn't weighed the other goats in maybe two months. I'm now going to get every goat's weight right at the turn of the month. So as close to the first as I can. This month it happened to be on the 2nd, but that's fine. I'm going to be keeping track of their ADG and I'm going to put an * by the pregnant goats because of course they will gain faster. Here's the goat, current weight, and ADG from last time being weighed. I only have the ADG for the Kikos because it was a long time since the others have been weighed.

Alana - 117 pds - .438 *
Sis - 108 pds - .500 *
Arianna - 96 pds - .313 *
Moses - 73 pds - .250
Katie - 82 pds *
Hieidi - 65 pds
Coco - 65 pds *
Milly - 69 pds
Caleb - 60 pds
Will - 44 pds
C1 - 17 pounds (I got C1's 50 weight the other day. She was born at 3 pds 15 oz. 30 day weight was 11 pounds. 60 day weight is 17 pds. She is a very good and quick grower!!)


So I was very excited to put these up as quick as I could!! I am so proud of my goats. They are all finally healthy and gaining weight. They are all great against worms and with their hooves. I love these goats.
And how 'bout them weights?? They are really gaining and those ADG's are huge. Of course they are pregnant but still. Sis at a half pound a day? That's awesome and they only get three cups of feed a day. And Moses is finally gaining again. That's why I started doing this. I could just see him getting bigger and I knew I had to start these ADG even for the mature goats. 1/4 pound a day is not bad!!

 

[marlowmanor]

Ya'll need to name C1 since you are keeping her now. Celina is a cute name. Or Cecilia. See I can come up with cute names that start with C!
More options: Cadence, Caterina, Cassie, Catalina, Cher, Clementine, Chloe

 

[Straw Hat Kikos]

Southern is keeping her. Not me. lol I like to call her C1. They can call her anything they want but I'm calling her C1. I like it.

We could call her Callie. I do like Cassie though.

As far as Bailey. If you decide to get rid of her I would sell or give her to a family just for a pet. She's too sweet.

You must have a microscope if you are serous about raising goats, imo. I will never go without one now.