Stumped on what breed this cow is!

neener92

Overrun with beasties
Joined
Mar 10, 2011
Messages
725
Reaction score
0
Points
84
Location
West Virginia
Ok, a few years ago we bought some cows from an old lady who wanted her cows to go to a good home. One of the cows was red with black stripes like a tiger! She is a gorgeous colored cow, not the greatest looking, but produces very nice looking correct calves. Well, she was bred to our black angus bull and produced a red heifer calf, we decided to keep the heifer calf and this calf, now a cow developed strips like her mother. These cows are wonderful mothers and give tons of milk, their calves grow like weeds and are thick with lots of muscle. I've tried looking up breeds but can't really figure out what she could have in her. The reason I am asking is we plan on selling the daughters bull calf as a bull. He is gorgeous, and is starting to develop stripes like his mother. I would upload pictures but it isn't letting me do that right now so I will try later.
 

Cricket

Ridin' The Range
Joined
May 21, 2011
Messages
659
Reaction score
11
Points
69
Location
Vermont
I think it's Guernsey/Jersey crosses that do that sometimes--is she beef or dairy? Does she have kind of a peachy nose? We've had some where I work, but 2 of them seemed to have some beef breed in them, too (big butts!), and they were quite dark. We had another who had a lot of white, but the darker places were striped. Looking forward to a photo!
 

WildRoseBeef

Range nerd & bovine enthusiast
Joined
Feb 1, 2009
Messages
2,253
Reaction score
361
Points
313
Location
Alberta, Canada
There is no particular breed with this colour pattern. It's a result of a mix of breeds, either by crossing Hereford with Jersey or Hereford with Brahman, or something in between to get that colouration called "brindle" or "tiger-stripe."

I'd (or, that is we) would love to see a picture of her. :)
 

BrownSheep

Lost in the flock
Joined
May 23, 2011
Messages
2,011
Reaction score
451
Points
203
Cows like long horns, jerseys, and highlands can be brindled. As can the brahma like breeds. My yak Hereford cross is really brindled in her short summer coat....
I would guess a jersey meat cross.
 

greybeard

Herd Master
Joined
Oct 23, 2011
Messages
5,940
Reaction score
10,805
Points
553
Location
East Texas
neener92 said:
Ok, a few years ago we bought some cows from an old lady who wanted her cows to go to a good home. One of the cows was red with black stripes like a tiger! She is a gorgeous colored cow, not the greatest looking, but produces very nice looking correct calves. Well, she was bred to our black angus bull and produced a red heifer calf, we decided to keep the heifer calf and this calf, now a cow developed strips like her mother. These cows are wonderful mothers and give tons of milk, their calves grow like weeds and are thick with lots of muscle. I've tried looking up breeds but can't really figure out what she could have in her. The reason I am asking is we plan on selling the daughters bull calf as a bull. He is gorgeous, and is starting to develop stripes like his mother. I would upload pictures but it isn't letting me do that right now so I will try later.
Lots of ear? Some hump?
True tigerstripes are offspring (F1) from a Brahma bull x hereford cow. They'll have a baldie look about them too.
You can sometimes get the same brindle/striped look from a Hereford bull x Brahma cow, tho most of the time that results in an ordinary Braford with a variety of colors depending on what the sire looked like..
You can also get tigers from other crosses where the sire is solid dark colored and red is reccessive.

Great momma cows--one of the best crossbreds you will ever see, but as I have heard and seen more than once, if ya mess with her calf you'll find out where the tiger part of the name came from. Any 'brindle' is apt to be high strung when they have a calf by their side--and I'm not exagerrating--be careful when around brindles.
You did good breeding a tiger offspring back to an angus--that should make a heck of a calf. In my part of the world, tigerstripes will easily compete with Angus and Brangus at sales--good long heavy carcasses, high weaners.
There aren't too many breed associations' propaganda I buy in to, but this one is speaking the truth--and you can see some pics of tigers as well.
http://www.hereford.org/static/files/0210_TigerstripedValue.pdf

Breed the tigers back to any good continental (angus, Char, Hereford etc ) bull and you will have great commercial calves to sell that will grow like weeds and heavy as heck.
 

neener92

Overrun with beasties
Joined
Mar 10, 2011
Messages
725
Reaction score
0
Points
84
Location
West Virginia
Here's her picture! Finally! haha! Her mother looks just the same only she's got a white smudge right near her mouth. I don't think she is very eary nor does she have a hump...I would deff know if she was eary, I love those ears on Brams! Perhaps '15' (that's her tag #) is a diluted Bram and red Angus?

Our original brindle is sweet even with a newborn calf (I walked up and tagged her calf there in the field, we normal pen them to tag and vaccinate), heifers we have kept out of her....I think that's two are also great mothers but not aggressive at all with calves in fact these cows are our sweetest sane cows.

We sold some calves the other week at a special sale, actually one heifer was from our original brindle, this heifer was solid black with a little white on her belly (the reason behind us not keeping this heifer is the cow is getting old and the calf didn't look as great as this cows past calves), and a steer out of one of her daughters (this cow is solid red with a dapple look to her), the steer was black with a red look to him, he was on the small side but made up for it in thickness and muscle! HAHA! They "checked" the steer to see if he was actually a steer....he was that awesome looking and he was banded about a week or so after birth, I begged dad to keep him a bull!

Anyway....here's #15 her tag fell out.
3557_7-25-12_019.jpg


Here is a pic of her bull calf, I love this boy! If I can't get my Jersey cow artificially bred or find a Jersey bull I'm going to try to breed her to this guy!
3557_11-7-12_025.jpg
 

greybeard

Herd Master
Joined
Oct 23, 2011
Messages
5,940
Reaction score
10,805
Points
553
Location
East Texas
Might be originally a Jersey X Hereford cross or some other Jersey cross that resulted in the brindle color.
Definitely not a Tigerstripe and your refrence to tigers kinda threw me off. I'm used to seeing tigerstripe being only in reference to brahma X hereford, but brindle can be present in just about any black x red. Brindle is a trait all it's own.

Brahma and red Angus? That's Brangus--yours doesn't have enough ear, hump or leather for that either--not if sire and dam were pb anyway. .
Phenotypes are hard to figure out (especially if you're in the dark about parentage of the originals) but there's a pretty good explanation of colorations here:
http://www.backyardherds.com/web/viewblog.php?id=236-colour-genetics


If I had to guess, I might would say your's started off Angus and Jersey, but something about your pics just screams Red Poll to me.
 

neener92

Overrun with beasties
Joined
Mar 10, 2011
Messages
725
Reaction score
0
Points
84
Location
West Virginia
I googled red poll cattle. Our brindle cows remind me of those for some reason! Maybe they are red poll with a little jersey in there? Anyway, these cows are great! Thanks for your input!
 

Cricket

Ridin' The Range
Joined
May 21, 2011
Messages
659
Reaction score
11
Points
69
Location
Vermont
Was there a prize for being the wayest off? I think I deserve it!:lol:
 

TracyTooManyHorses

Exploring the pasture
Joined
Nov 13, 2012
Messages
18
Reaction score
0
Points
12
Normande are a natural brindle as are Longhorn (which I have seen with a genetic "flaw" for polled cattle). LOL if I could figure out how to upload, I would post a photo of my Normande bull, who is white with dark red patches & brindling over the top line.
 
Top