Sustainable, natural, organic, herbal, etc, and goat husbandry

[FarmerChick]

3rd world countries

goats are on their own..LOL

with old time nature to help them survive.




Pine trees are great for goats. Natural wormer situation.

My does eat the pines, strip the bark etc. They love those pines.

All Xmas trees that haven't been sprayed, I ask everyone (including landscape stores etc that sell them in the local area) for all their leftover trees. Goats eat the hound out of them.

 

[big brown horse]

I did stumble across this "e book" on sustainable development in third world countries, I think I have it opened to the goat pages: http://books.google.com/books?id=o5...page&q=goats in third world countries&f=false

ETA: sorry if this is off topic sorta.

 

[ohiofarmgirl]

When I finish up my conventional dewormer I am trying this http://hoeggergoatsupply.com/xcart/product.php?productid=3397&cat=82&page=1 . It smells like licorice. I have two more doses of the old stuff. A friend of mine uses it and hasn't had as much of an issue with worms. Hopefully it works for me.

we use this and it works like a dream. i only had to use the conventional stuff once - now i just use it on the dogs.

one of the dairy gals we brought in needed to be wormed. i used the hoegger stuff - i think you use it 3 days for the first time - and she had a total turn around in a week or so. i'm totally sold on it.

and yes FC they already think i'm the crazy old chicken lady!!! i'm already 'mentoring' a younger farm couple. who woulda thought!??!?

i think they should start some pro-family-farm propaganda... the slogan should be something like:

Be and American. Get a Chicken.

;-)

 

[big brown horse]

Be an American - Get a Chicken!

Love it!


Ok I'm going to check out that wormer too. This year all my cross fencing goes up for horses and for the sheep. Rotation is the goal.(We just moved way out here and there were NO fences up then. We have to take baby steps because of the economy.)

 

[freemotion]

OK, someone help me out here. I know I've read not to use wormwood in pregnant animals but Hoegger's says it is safe. Waddaya think?

Hey, thanks, everyone, for jumping in on this thread. Go off topic to other critters and third world countries, that is just fine with me!!

 

[ohiofarmgirl]

its gotta be the AMOUNT that you use.... i had the same concerns especially since i have that stupid wormwood growing everywhere around here.

the weekly amount is 1.5 teasp per big goat, 1/2 for a small goat...and the wormwood is just one ingredient.

dunno??????

 

[ksalvagno]

According to Molly from Fiasco Farm, it is not safe. I bought some dewormering herbs from her and the one with the wormwood in it says not to feed to pregnant does.

 

[BDial]

Shoot. Then I have to wait till they kid. One of my girls is due in 4 months and the other is at the breeder "getting married" right now.

ETA: does anyone know if it would be safe to use on a horse.( Just thought about it so I haven't looked anything up yet.)

 

[freemotion]

So what would you worm pregnant does with?

I have a goal of growing all the herbs myself, but will probably buy a pre-mixed batch first as part of the learning process. I haven't jumped in yet, still researching. Still have that bottle of Ivomec in my fridge. Running fecals, so I haven't had to use it much at all, and would like to go herbal completely if possible.

I harvested, dried, and ground up green hulls from my black walnut trees and have two quart jars almost full on the shelf. I will plant lots this spring of the other herbs needed, but will just buy the dried herbs for now. I have a recipe I plan to try....but since three of my five are getting bred, I have to change those plans. I think I will order from Molly's herbals this week.

 

[freemotion]

Just ordered the kit. There is some great info on the site on wormwood and pregnancy. I will avoid Hoegger's with preggers does. My does will start on the herbals when I get back from Maine week after next, and I will run fecals first and then maybe every two weeks for a while.....sound good?