Tapeworms and the valbazen ain't working....

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It HAS been scary 20kidsonhill! The vet really thinks it has to do with our location though....being an ex-pig factory of sorts...I mean c'mon now...who has over 300 of ANYTHING except maybe chickens on just 10 ACRES! (and that is still a LOT of freakin chickens!) THAT IS A CRAZY amount of pigs! And from what the neighbors have said this place was pretty nasty when the old owners were here...so even though pig and goat cocci are 2 different types...who knows what was tracked in and thriving in the soil before the drought and who knows what was being dosed at what levels no less IF anything ever because their cleanliness is CLEARLY in question....it's like we picked a ticking time bomb of parasites and we THOUGHT we were safe because of the drought and being abandoned....but NO it made it WORSE!

Thankfully, we DO have this new thing (well, new to ME) and I must admit...I WISH I had it all along! The ONLY hard part is going to be doing things so that the goats are allowed to build resistance to cocci as they age...and hitting them at the right times with it so they can. If we have made it this far with only one REALLY sick goat and a few that were borderline but fighting it...well...the vet says my little herd ins't too bad off :) But even still...if 1 or 2 bottles of this gets me through NINE kids all season...than I am WAY ahead of where I was with the "old stand by" financially TOO! Now that I look back, as much as so many websites preach to fecal before worming but always just to DO cocci prevention...well...I see where it for me at least has been almost like I was creating work chasing down kids like clockwork instead of checking first...

I did the math...look...let's say a 15lb kid, their FIRST round of cocci prevention....using di-methox....5days, at 1cc - 5lbs day 1 and 1cc - 10lbs day 2-5 = 9cc of di-methox 40% right? A 250ml bottle is 22.89 right now...or .09cents per ml....that's .81cents for 5 days....toltrazuril is $66 (after shipping) for 200ml...or .33 cents per ml....a 15lb kid would get 3cc...that's .99cents roughly...slightly more you say...BUT the kicker is you don't do it every 3 weeks all season...JUST when you need to! And then there is the time factor...time IS money...if I only have to do it ONCE on ONE day I have saved myself an hour of prepping and catching goats and dosing each day...that is a lot of time...and I haven't even done the math on the corrid...don't want to as at $80+ a bottle and with a mostly full bottle probably going unused here unless I find a friend that wants it and it works for them...well...let's just say THAT was a sad financial waste for me! I just stare at that jug and shake my head....

I will admit though...I wouldn't go back to our old place that was so fast becoming an over crowded urban sprawling mess ...nope...wouldn't trade this last week for that at ALL! I do love being able to hunt deer from my back porch in the fall/winter and feed in my pajamas! I will keep you posted on how it turns out with the worming...just refrigerating samples until Monday at this point...my husband says he is going to stop and get me a small "poo only" fridge for meds and such...and poo...LOL...because he is tired of the "meat bin" being the mystery bin! I told him to not worry because soon I would have a microscope and I would be doing my own checks and wouldn't need to save stuff in the fridge...and he looked even more worried about "science experiments in the kitchen"....don't worry...I plan to do it out in the shed...but he thinks I'm doing it in the kitchen! LOL...I have to find something to laugh about, and teasing him right now brings me a laugh I REALLY need!
 

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We put it in the drinking water, and although corid is twice as much as sulfa-dimethoxine in cost, you use less. So it figures out to be about the same in cost.

WE are only using the 12.5 % sulfa-dimethoxine, in the gallon jug for $45 and treating at the rate of 1 cc per 5 lbs day one and, 1 cc per 10lbs day 2-5. Or if they are drinking adequate amounts of water I am putting 1 ounce of sulfa in 2 gallons of drinking water.

With the Corid I am putting 2 ounces of corid in 5 gallons of water the first couple of days and then 1 ounce per 5 gallons of drinking water after that.

That is assumming everyone is drinking and they aren't eating too much wet pasture, That makes it trickier, and we have had to catch them all and treat by hand because of decreased water consumption because of wet pasture.


Although I have used a couple tricks, put out a bale of hay for them to eat, and put out fresh minerals, That often gets them drinking more, even if it had just rained.

Most the times our kids are born in January and hopefully by the time it worms up most are sold, or are more resistant. But with this crazy winter we have been really making sure we stay on top of it.

We also creep feed with a medicated feed, it really helps with the kids that are 6 weeks or older and are eating a good amount of feed by that time. But outbreaks are still possible.

I am babbling, and need to go do barn chores.

Take care.
and I am sure the Horse wormer will do its job and get rid of those tapeworms for you. At least for a while. We find JUne and July is our worst time for Tapeworms, but they have started extra early this year. We have already seen droppings with tapes in them.
 
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