I have read a little already about doing fecal testing, so I think I have a general understanding. But, I have read about some other diseases. I think they are CAE, cocci something, and John. I would like to know how they are tested for and what they are. I am having trouble searching for what I would like to learn because I am not sure what the right names are. I would like to read up on these things so I can know why to do the test and how to do them or who I should have do them for me. Thank you.
Teach me about testing my herd please.
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autumnprairie
Owned by the Rotten Heifers
CAE and CL are done by blood tests www.biotracking.com you can buy the test and supplies to take the blood.gibbsgirl said:
Cocci is found by doing a fecal test. Elevan has lonks on the bottom of her posts but here ya go.
http://www.backyardherds.com/web/viewblog.php?id=2607-parasite-mgmt
when you go to the site you will see more links up top to her other pages.
good luck
keep us posted
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Thank you.
I see the CAE test on that site and a pregnancy test. Is the CL the same thing?
Should I test each animal or just a few from the herd?
How often do I test?
If an animal tests positive, what do I do? Is there treatment to cure? Should I not breed that animal?
Is there a John disease I should test for also?
I see the CAE test on that site and a pregnancy test. Is the CL the same thing?
Should I test each animal or just a few from the herd?
How often do I test?
If an animal tests positive, what do I do? Is there treatment to cure? Should I not breed that animal?
Is there a John disease I should test for also?
autumnprairie
Owned by the Rotten Heifers
Another BYHer told me that for an extra 10 they will send your blood to the university for CL testing.gibbsgirl said:
you can still breed but not let the doe feed her young if you want to go CAE free kids
CAE I think you test once and if positive you can feed your kids pasterized milk so they will not get it.
As far a parasites I would test when I though I had a problem.I only treat when I have a problem because I don't want a resistant worm loads
here are a few more sites I like too.
http://fiascofarm.com/sitemap.htm#goats
http://www.extension.umn.edu/meatgoats/components/pdfs/FAMACHA_Postels.pdf
ThreeBoysChicks
Loving the herd life
I just went through this and am the person who mentioned it to autumnprairie.
CL - I think you should test everyone for CL, my opinion. Based on my understanding if someone has CL, it can be spread to everyone if they have a abcess that opens up and it can get in the ground and spread to new goats that you may get. Not saying you have to get rid of a goat that tests positive for CL, but at least you know what you are dealing with and now to take preventative measures.
CAE - Based on my understanding is a personal preference. If you want to breed and let the mother raise the babies, than I think you should definitely test for CAE as it is passed from mother to baby through their milk. If you do breed a CAE positive doe, you should take the babies ASAP and bottle raise them. You can use the mothers milk, but it must be pasturized first.
I tested my crew. My Boar / Nubian cross is CL Negative and CAE positive. She will live out her years here but I will not breed her, becasue of my work schedule, it is most unlikely that I will not be here when she gives birth.
Nina - My Nubian tested negative for CL and negative for CAE. She is currently bred and due in Aparil. You can see her progress, etc here http://www.backyardherds.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=14693
It really is not that hard t do it yourself and it saves a lot of money. My Vet did the original tests, but I wanted to test Nina for pregnancy and did it myself.
I purchased form BIOTracking their Goat Starter kit. It has 13 needles and 11 tubes, a needle holder and instructions for $15.50 http://www.biotracking.com/?q=store/bgoatstr
I drew Nina's and shipped it off to BioTracking. The Pregnancy test was $6.50. For an Extra CAE it is $4 and for $10 more, they will forward your Sample on for CL testing. Shipping was $9
So the cost of one vile / Needle was $1.41
Cost to ship and have test completed was $15.50
Total Cost for Pregnancy Test was $16.91.
CL - I think you should test everyone for CL, my opinion. Based on my understanding if someone has CL, it can be spread to everyone if they have a abcess that opens up and it can get in the ground and spread to new goats that you may get. Not saying you have to get rid of a goat that tests positive for CL, but at least you know what you are dealing with and now to take preventative measures.
CAE - Based on my understanding is a personal preference. If you want to breed and let the mother raise the babies, than I think you should definitely test for CAE as it is passed from mother to baby through their milk. If you do breed a CAE positive doe, you should take the babies ASAP and bottle raise them. You can use the mothers milk, but it must be pasturized first.
I tested my crew. My Boar / Nubian cross is CL Negative and CAE positive. She will live out her years here but I will not breed her, becasue of my work schedule, it is most unlikely that I will not be here when she gives birth.
Nina - My Nubian tested negative for CL and negative for CAE. She is currently bred and due in Aparil. You can see her progress, etc here http://www.backyardherds.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=14693
It really is not that hard t do it yourself and it saves a lot of money. My Vet did the original tests, but I wanted to test Nina for pregnancy and did it myself.
I purchased form BIOTracking their Goat Starter kit. It has 13 needles and 11 tubes, a needle holder and instructions for $15.50 http://www.biotracking.com/?q=store/bgoatstr
I drew Nina's and shipped it off to BioTracking. The Pregnancy test was $6.50. For an Extra CAE it is $4 and for $10 more, they will forward your Sample on for CL testing. Shipping was $9
So the cost of one vile / Needle was $1.41
Cost to ship and have test completed was $15.50
Total Cost for Pregnancy Test was $16.91.
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Ordering the kit would certainly be convenient, but if you're tight on money you can get it done cheaper if you already have needles and syringes on hand. You can buy the red top tubes from a local vet. I paid something like $1.50 for 5, and they're even cheaper if you want to order them in bulk from a place like Jeffers or something.
ThreeBoysChicks
Loving the herd life
Yeah I bought the starter kit so that I knew what I needed. I think from now on I will buy straight from Sheepman's Supply which is 15 minutes form my house.aggieterpkatie said:
Cabinchick
Ridin' The Range
Taking my new goats into the vet on Monday to be tested for CAE and CL. Aware I could buy a kit online, but I want to watch the doc's technique for drawing blood. Wil probably take an iPhone video clip, and use as a refresher for next time I need to draw blood myself. How often do goats need to be tested for CAE and CL? When you first get them and before you breed? Or annually?
