Teresa & Mike CHS - Our journal

[Mike CHS]

I have some major yard work to do tomorrow so I made a casserole that I can throw in the oven when Teresa calls when she is about an hour out on her way home from South Carolina. I think this dish might well be the ultimate comfort food.

It's a layered pasta dish using egg noodles, cream cheese and sour cream as the base then the sauce is added which is ground beef, diced tomatoes, rotel tomatoes, tomato paste and Italian seasoning.

Over that is shredded cheddar, shredded parmesan and finally shredded mozarella.

 

[Baymule]

What do you reckon that she'll be the happiest to see when she gets home? You or that yummy casserole?

 

[farmerjan]

I have some major yard work to do tomorrow so I made a casserole that I can throw in the oven when Teresa calls when she is about an hour out on her way home from South Carolina. I think this dish might well be the ultimate comfort food.

It's a layered pasta dish using egg noodles, cream cheese and sour cream as the base then the sauce is added which is ground beef, diced tomatoes, rotel tomatoes, tomato paste and Italian seasoning.

Over that is shredded cheddar, shredded parmesan and finally shredded mozarella.

YUM YUM....

 

[Mike CHS]

What do you reckon that she'll be the happiest to see when she gets home? You or that yummy casserole?

Me of course.

 

[Bruce]

Ivermectin for COVID-19: real-time analysis of all 113 studies

"Analysis of the efficacy of early treatments for COVID-19. Treatments do not replace vaccines and other measures. All practical, effective, and safe means should be used. Elimination of COVID-19 is a race against viral evolution. No treatment, vaccine, or intervention is 100% available and effective for all current and future variants. Denying the efficacy of any method increases the risk of COVID-19 becoming endemic; and increases mortality, morbidity, and collateral damage."

I guess I'm the outlier here but I'd rather keep the barn doors closed (vaccine) during a storm than go out and hunt for the animals that bolted hoping my flashlight (treatment) works.

Covid cases, hospitalizations and deaths are spiking with Delta, the vast majority being unvaccinated people. Should I happen to get a "breakthrough" case while practicing whatever safety precautions I can, I think I'd rather not self medicate with ivermectin given there doesn't seem to be any information as to dosage, frequency, etc. If it is an effective treatment, as the linked studies say it is, the medical community should be coming out with recommendations for those details and your local doctor could then treat per those recommendations.

But the overburdened medical community doesn't need any more unnecessary cases to deal with. And the cost of same is way up there. How's your medical insurance?

"“The average hospital stay for COVID-19 has cost Delta $50,000 per person,” Bastian said in an employee memo."

Delta Airlines - cost of a Covid hospitalization

 

[farmerjan]

If the cases got treated right off the bat with things like ivermectin and hydroxy.... half or MORE of those cases would not ever need to go to the hospital...
I have also been looking at some other info that I am sure some would say is "misinformation" and they are not reporting all the variant cases that are winding up in the hospitals that are vaccinated.... and the wording is "interesting"... "vaccinated people" is being limited to anyone who has had both shots, and have to be 2 weeks post vaccinated with the 2nd shot to be considered a "vaccinated person".... they consider anyone who had 1 shot and did not receive the 2nd shot due to reaction to the first shot... as unvaccinated.... anyone less than a minimum 2 weeks after "vaccination" that gets sick... is listed as "unvaccinated"....

If you want to get vaccinated... GO FOR IT..... if you have ALREADY had the virus and have natural immunity... then if this was a decent UNBIASED situation and studies were being done like they should... then there would be some serious studies on the natural immunity of these people. Back when they were coming out with things like the measles and other vaccines.....they were studying the ones that had had measles.... and the way they were immune to new exposures...
Smallpox vaccines were developed BECAUSE of milk maids not catching it because of their exposure to cow pox....

Why are the RED CROSS blood donation places looking for people that have had the virus and have recovered.... that Have NOT had the vaccine??????

But there is nothing fair and right about this.... because it is not about unbiased reporting or studies. There has not been any fairness of reporting from all sides... to let people read and make INTELLIGENT choices and decisions....
There are WAY TOO MANY doctors that have been trying to present other opinions.... that have been squelched, threatened, called names .... and yes.... there are doctors that are irresponsible... but to totally REFUSE to look at other studies is the height of STUPIDITY and BIAS....

There are HUNDREDS of doctors with protocols for treatments.... amounts, frequency, antibiotics that will work synergistically... You cannot sit there and say that there are no information for that. The da*@#d group around Faucci have done EVERYTHING to stop good decent doctors from doing "off label treatment" with the DOCTORS making the decisions of who, what, when, where, and why.....So don't start with the "self medicate" nonsense @Bruce .....when the doctors were PROHIBITED from prescribing hydroxy and other things back when the former president said it was a possible breakthrough drug.... NO, this is not acceptable and cannot be used.... PERIOD.

You need to go back to pull up the video of Dr Pierre Kory's presentation to the Senate committee... he BEGGED them to at least look at the studies.... and they said they would... and it was BURIED......

@Bruce .....I hope that you do not get any bad effects from exposure to the variants, the vaccine or anything else. But it is being shown daily that the vaccinated ones are spreading more of the virus than those that have not had it or are naturally immune.... but I am done with this. You did not really read the statement you quoted...

 

[Bruce]

Why are the RED CROSS blood donation places looking for people that have had the virus and have recovered.... that Have NOT had the vaccine??????

Citation please? This from the Red Cross says you can donate if you have been vaccinated

But it is being shown daily that the vaccinated ones are spreading more of the virus than those that have not had it or are naturally immune....

Pretty basic concept isn't it? If you don't have it, you can't spread it. No vaccine is 100% effective, though the mRNA ones are 90+% which is FAR better than any flu vaccine. Thus people who have been vaccinated can still get a case, though it should be substantially less severe or even non symptomatic than someone who was not vaccinated. Those that have not been vaccinated and get Covid spread it at a much higher rate than "breakthrough" cases if for no other reason than there are magnitudes more of them.

Approximately 0.04% of fully vaccinated people in the U.S. have reported breakthrough cases, according to researchers

You did not really read the statement you quoted...

https://www.redcross.org/about-us/n...out-covid-19-vaccines-and-blood-donation.html
I did, what is your point? Did you read it, the second sentence in particular?: Treatments do not replace vaccines and other measures.

If, after taking all precautions, one still gets a case of Covid, yes treatments are the next step. If ivermectin is the best one, great.


And yes the "fully vaccinated" definition is a bit wonky. One shot of J&J is considered fully vaccinated even though it is < 70% effective against getting a moderate to severe case (which I GUESS is just shy of the hospital?? I've never seen a definition). The mRNA vaccines are over 90% effective against getting it at all or getting only a non symptomatic case. Presumably the J&J is also > 90% effective against hospitalization or death, same as the mRNA vaccines. BUT to get to the 90%+ levels with the mRNA vaccines you don't hit peak protection, and therefore "fully vaccinated" until 2 weeks after the second shot. Without the second shot they are about as effective as a single J&J. If 1 J&J is "fully vaccinated" why isn't an equally effective 1 shot of mRNA the same? Personally, though the J&J is in line or better than the annual flu vaccine, I consider it a "C" grade given 2 shots of the mRNAs are so much more effective. If you are grading on a curve, the J&J doesn't cut it.

 

[farmerjan]

"Denying the efficacy of ANY method......." That is what they have been doing for over a year.
And more and more studies are showing that the mRNA "vaccines" are less than 46% effective..... A vaccine PREVENTS you from getting the disease....not make the results less severe....... why in the world would we be giving our cattle vaccinations for things like BVD, IBR , BRSV..... and it is seldom advised for them to get it more than once a year.... after the initial 1 or 2 dose innoculation.... because it protects them 99.9% of the time.... and they are in contact with each other in much closer quarters.... they sure aren't wearing masks, and wipe their noses on each other and such.....

Forget it, I will not continue to argue with you.

 

[Bruce]

And more and more studies are showing that the mRNA "vaccines" are less than 46% effective.

Citation please

 

[Mike CHS]

Citation please

Since you seem to insist that you have the last word, take it to your own thread.