*UPDATE*7-5 Help! My 4 day old buck with white runny poop?PICS

[elevan]

Did I post this already? Forgive me if I did - I'm running out the door again! My little 10 day old guy had very yellow, foamy/frothy/slimey poo for about 48 hours. Specto-guard (scour-check) had him back on track after just a couple doses. It's an antibiotic that's labeled for piglets with e-coli. Something to consider if you have not yet.

Unfortunately, the feed stores around here don't know what I'm talking about when I asked if they carry that. They don't seem to carry many medications. Mostly feeds and supplies. I do have one other source that I don't think I have checked yet. I'll try tomorrow if I don't get the fecal back by then. Thank you

He really needs this. Does any one have any other bacerial scour suggestions she could give to him orally, like a tetracyclene???

I can usually find oral Neomycin if nothing else...I would think the feed stores would definitely have that...
I know it's not a "great" medicine but it is better than nothing at all.

As far as under 6 months of age, I respectfully disagree with those age limits. even a young doe kidding or being weaned can be run down by coccidiosis. I would expand those age limit from 2 weeks to 2 years. Just don't want any of you to rule out cocci as a possible culprit on your young does.

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[ksalvagno]

Personally I don't rule out coccidia for any age goat. Had some adults with coccidia so I know it is true.

 

[helmstead]

I really think antibiotics at this point are premature. JMO

20 - you can really only treat bacterial scours with a sulfa drug.

 

[elevan]

20 - you can really only treat bacterial scours with a sulfa drug.

I respectfully disagree.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Escherichia_coli

 

[cindy78]

Unfortunately, the feed stores around here don't know what I'm talking about when I asked if they carry that. They don't seem to carry many medications. Mostly feeds and supplies. I do have one other source that I don't think I have checked yet. I'll try tomorrow if I don't get the fecal back by then. Thank you

He really needs this. Does any one have any other bacerial scour suggestions she could give to him orally, like a tetracyclene???

I can usually find oral Neomycin if nothing else...I would think the feed stores would definitely have that...
I know it's not a "great" medicine but it is better than nothing at all.

As far as under 6 months of age, I respectfully disagree with those age limits. even a young doe kidding or being weaned can be run down by coccidiosis. I would expand those age limit from 2 weeks to 2 years. Just don't want any of you to rule out cocci as a possible culprit on your young does.

x2

Do you think if the mom has cocci, it could have passed to the kid during pregnancy? I don't know, maybe a silly question...I got mom in March and she has not had any scours or any abnormalities...??

Still waiting for the call from the vet. Hi temp today is 103.3. Three days ago-103.7, yesterday-103.6, today 103.3 could only be a good sign right? He is walking around running around with mom. Gave him his Penn G sq and Red Cell. His eyelids are pink and his gums are a little more pink than yesterday. Can't wait til I know whats going on.....

 

[elevan]

He really needs this. Does any one have any other bacerial scour suggestions she could give to him orally, like a tetracyclene???

I can usually find oral Neomycin if nothing else...I would think the feed stores would definitely have that...
I know it's not a "great" medicine but it is better than nothing at all.

As far as under 6 months of age, I respectfully disagree with those age limits. even a young doe kidding or being weaned can be run down by coccidiosis. I would expand those age limit from 2 weeks to 2 years. Just don't want any of you to rule out cocci as a possible culprit on your young does.

x2

Do you think if the mom has cocci, it could have passed to the kid during pregnancy? I don't know, maybe a silly question...I got mom in March and she has not had any scours or any abnormalities...??

Still waiting for the call from the vet. Hi temp today is 103.3. Three days ago-103.7, yesterday-103.6, today 103.3 could only be a good sign right? He is walking around running around with mom. Gave him his Penn G sq and Red Cell. His eyelids are pink and his gums are a little more pink than yesterday. Can't wait til I know whats going on.....

I suppose anything is possible but it's highly unlikely. The oocysts have to be ingested and they are expelled through fecal matter...then they have to incubate in their host (13 days) before symptoms begin (or sometimes not) to show. The mother could have coccidia without being symptomatic. Actually she probably does have them in her system, the question is...Is she overloaded (positive).

I'm glad his getting more color to the eyelids and gums. You can continue the Red Cell if they start to lighten again...just keep an eye on them.

I would also get a fecal run on the mother, just to check her out.

 

[cindy78]

*UPDATE*

Called the vet today to get results of fecal exam and they said everything was negative? Cocci, worms parasites etc.. They said the lab checks for everything and didn't find anything. So what caused the white poop??? I may never know. But it did change back to yellow the same day I gave him ProBios gel. He seems more alive than last week. He is running around kicking everywhere. Still continuing the penn G though till the 7 days are up. He is drinking water and nibbles on alfalfa with mom and sister. His poop is still a little watery but it is green now. I'm happy everything is ok!!

Thanks for all the advice!

 

[Hillsvale]

I keep seeing everyone saying that the kid isn't old enough for coccidia... yet every book I have read that talks about it, mentions that it typically attacks kids under 6 months old because of how weak their systems are at the very young ages... ????

If it were cocci the kid would have died by now without the proper treatment... I am speaking as one who just lost a kid, relatively fine to dead in less than 24 hours; this is a milk and or digestion issue in a new born kid.

Wait for the fecal, your vet will have the meds to fix him up properly.

 

[Livinwright Farm]

*UPDATE*

Called the vet today to get results of fecal exam and they said everything was negative? Cocci, worms parasites etc.. They said the lab checks for everything and didn't find anything. So what caused the white poop??? I may never know. But it did change back to yellow the same day I gave him ProBios gel. He seems more alive than last week. He is running around kicking everywhere. Still continuing the penn G though till the 7 days are up. He is drinking water and nibbles on alfalfa with mom and sister. His poop is still a little watery but it is green now. I'm happy everything is ok!!

Thanks for all the advice!

Good news!

 

[Livinwright Farm]

I keep seeing everyone saying that the kid isn't old enough for coccidia... yet every book I have read that talks about it, mentions that it typically attacks kids under 6 months old because of how weak their systems are at the very young ages... ????

If it were cocci the kid would have died by now without the proper treatment... I am speaking as one who just lost a kid, relatively fine to dead in less than 24 hours; this is a milk and or digestion issue in a new born kid.

Wait for the fecal, your vet will have the meds to fix him up properly.

Elevan already adressed this.

And I am sorry you lost a kid... seems to be happening to a lot of our(meaning BYH members) herds this year, with a fair number being mysterious deaths.