Update on the Buck with dumb owner...**UPDATE**

[allanimals21]

I don't know if you guys remeber the situation I was in with the one woman. heres a link to the origina post...
http://www.backyardherds.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=21754

Anyway....long story short....I ended up getting into it with her today. I told her that I would send her a check for $200 for him and we could be done with this. That way I saved him from her stupidity and hopefully save her 2 does from being bred back while they are still nursing thier kids from 5-6 weeks ago.

I've had alot going on lately with some family health issues, work, school, and the animals. Getting him back to her was least of my priorities. With everything about his woman I know I had planned on buying him back anyway. I just figured if I saved him and me the headache of having to deal with her the better. I talked to her earlier this week about him. I told her that I had put some money into him for vaccinating and deworming and what not. She had told me when I picked him up she would cover that. Well, when I told her I had dewormed him, I had given him ivermec cuz I thought I saw some crawlies. So anyway instead of trying to explain that to her because she had got all defensive saying that her goats are healthy. Nothing is wrong with him. He doesn't have worms. I explained to her as best I could that all goats have a wormload of some sort. She was just amazed. Then she didn't believe me that they get vaccinated. So anyways I had told her on this day that I would talk to my fiance and let her know what we would offer her. She said fine....that if she could get $200-$250 she would just deal with it.

Fast farward to today. I told her today I would give her $200 because on our BS "contract" as she called it we agreed that if anything should happen to him I would pay $200. Which is what we had both agreed he was worth. She came unglued about how she paid $250 for him and how he was worth so much more because he had beautiful babies and he has long haired babies and he is built so well blah blah blah. Funny thing is that she knows nothing about fainting goats (well goats in general). She told me when I was first up there how she couldn't wait to get rid of him. He stinks and blah blah. Now because she thinks she can make all this money on them she wants to breed fainting goats. Funny thing is kids are not even a year. He's got 5 kids on the ground. only 2 of which are purebred. I owned them...I sold them. She has 3 pygmy crosses out of him she cant even sell.

So anyhoo today I tell her that...she gets all mad about how she wants him back and how I should have put her ahead of all my other issues and this is all my fault....well I snapped and told her she doesn't know what shes doing and shouldn't be breeding...yea she didn't like hearing that. Then I say you don't even know how to vaccinate or deworm...why would you breed? I didn't even say anything about her goats....she snaps at me that her goats are just as good if not better than mine and she would line them up anyday...bring it on she tells me. What a child. I told her I will have a check in the mail monday. She said if its not for $250 she's coming with the sherrif...what a moron..and she apparently is a no it all about how a good goat is conformed....she was talking like Nova is a buck from god. He's decent. Not spectacular. anyway...thats my rant. He is now safe with me...

Sorry I just had to get that out to other goat people...

 

[ksalvagno]

Sorry you are going through that. Sounds like someone who shouldn't even own goats.

 

[allanimals21]

Sorry you are going through that. Sounds like someone who shouldn't even own goats.

Well like I said...at least I've got him now. I will send her a check monday. I still think I'm only gonna send $200. See if she actually tries to show up with the sherriff.

 

[SkyWarrior]

Sorry you are going through that. Sounds like someone who shouldn't even own goats.

Well like I said...at least I've got him now. I will send her a check monday. I still think I'm only gonna send $200. See if she actually tries to show up with the sherriff.

You're too honest. I would've said "he got out and got hit by a car. Here's $200."

 

[Roll farms]

If you have a copy of the contract saying he's worth 200$, make a copy of the check for 200$ before you send it, and show both to the sheriff IF she's dumb enough to show up w/ him. I think that'll pretty much make your point.

 

[lilhill]

If you have a copy of the contract saying he's worth 200$, make a copy of the check for 200$ before you send it, and show both to the sheriff IF she's dumb enough to show up w/ him. I think that'll pretty much make your point.

 

[Southern by choice]

Great idea Roll! I don't like the whole lying thing, 2 wrongs don't ever make a right.

In the end it is the other ladies goat, sad as that is, you do not want to end up accused of stealing. If she does not cash your check then she is not agreeing to your terms and by law you would be stealing if you do not then return the buck.

She sounds rather unstable, sure I think we all care about the goat here but definitely protect yourself first.

 

[allanimals21]

Great idea Roll! I don't like the whole lying thing, 2 wrongs don't ever make a right.

In the end it is the other ladies goat, sad as that is, you do not want to end up accused of stealing. If she does not cash your check then she is not agreeing to your terms and by law you would be stealing if you do not then return the buck.

She sounds rather unstable, sure I think we all care about the goat here but definitely protect yourself first.

She will cash the check because she's a money hungry idiot. Technically according to his papers and the registry she doesn't even own him. The person I sold him to still technically owns him.

 

[Southern by choice]

The whole situation is sad. It does make me think about when I need to start selling kids though. I would rather a goat come back to me then just keep getting sold over and over again and one of our kids end up like this poor guy. I know it happens a lot with bucks, makes me so sad. I love bucks, really, really love them. Except for the stank during rut ! I'm sure it really upset you! I'm always a bit mixed on the matter.... I think when someone buys an animal it is theirs and they should be able to do what they want with it, at the same time I can't stand to see a buck that's gone through a new place every year. I just want anyone who buys a kid from us to have us as their first option. I like to have enough bucks as to where those who have bought does from us can come back and have their girls bred instead of buying a buck for a season and out he goes, shipped off somewhere else.

Ideas?

BTW- went back to look at the buck,s pic.... LOVE his color! Yes, I am a color nut!

I really hope this ends up working in your favor.

 

[SkyWarrior]

The whole situation is sad. It does make me think about when I need to start selling kids though. I would rather a goat come back to me then just keep getting sold over and over again and one of our kids end up like this poor guy. I know it happens a lot with bucks, makes me so sad. I love bucks, really, really love them. Except for the stank during rut ! I'm sure it really upset you! I'm always a bit mixed on the matter.... I think when someone buys an animal it is theirs and they should be able to do what they want with it, at the same time I can't stand to see a buck that's gone through a new place every year. I just want anyone who buys a kid from us to have us as their first option. I like to have enough bucks as to where those who have bought does from us can come back and have their girls bred instead of buying a buck for a season and out he goes, shipped off somewhere else.

Ideas?

BTW- went back to look at the buck,s pic.... LOVE his color! Yes, I am a color nut!

I really hope this ends up working in your favor.

Have that in your sales contract. If they violate it, you could take them to court, but it may be more money and aggravation than it's worth.