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Wehner Homestead
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In my defense I didn't say the "crazy cat lady", just "cat lady". LOL
That was my attempt to make you smile during these tough times...
It worked!
In my defense I didn't say the "crazy cat lady", just "cat lady". LOL
That was my attempt to make you smile during these tough times...
Sorry about your LGD. It is hard to lose any animal that is a part of the farm and the family like she was.
Make sure the Lepto specifically says hardjo as one of the strains. As @greybeard said, it seems to be the strain that is most prevelant causing problems, but as he also said, there are other things that can cause it. I am not much on all these vaccines that are "big combinations" and I do not like MLV vaccines at all. I liken it to all the vaccines that they give little babies now...I think we actually put their own immune systems at risk because we pump so much into them so young and in such larger combinations. I know there are alot of people who will disagree with me. But triangle 10 is supposed to be a good vaccine according to what some say. I would maybe try adding just a lepto vaccine when you preg check or if you do the Triangle 10 then, at a point somewhere at a 6 month interval. One thing, is triangle 10 safe for pregnant cows? Maybe if you are giving it to them while open, then breeding them back it might be too soon for it to have gone past the "problem" time. Some will say how long before you can safely breed.
3 out of 15 is 20%; WAY TOO MANY. You might want to do blood work or ask the vet what they would suggest. We usually have 3 to 5 out of 100 that come up open; and that is including the old cows. Maybe 1 out of 30 or 40 in the young cows. Often that is because they have had a real nice calf and have milked heavy and are a bit on the thin side....so they get a 2nd try. But never again are they given a 2nd chance....
Have one heifer that was confirmed preg and was supposed to have calved this spring. She happened to be in a pasture that the bull was put back in to cover my AI bred heifers as a cleanup. She never calved so when we checked the AI group she was again confirmed preg at about the same amount of time as they were, so must have slipped the first preg. Well, they have all calved and she is not looking like she is going to calve. She will get rechecked in case she is close, but I think she slipped it again and will go. If she is close then okay but I don't hold out much hope. They all get Lepto when they are preg checked but it is a killed virus vaccine. Anyone we do give a second chance to also gets lepto, but the "culls" do not and get on the next truck out.
I was afraid Id have to kick someones patootie for picking on my @WernerHomestead!
You have been thru and are dealing with alot lately. Dont let some bleephead ruin it for you. Just call me, I will sic my attack chickens on them.