Greetings and welcome to BYH @LMB You should consider putting your location in your profile as it will make a difference if you share or ask for help/advice. The post you are responding to is from late 2012 or almost 5 years ago. Those folks aren't here any longer. Please take a moment and visit the https://www.backyardherds.com/forums/new-member-introductions.17/ section and introduce yourself so folks can give you a proper welcome! Then browse around and make yourself at home!