Who influences singles, twins, trips.....buck, doe, feeding/flushing?

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n.smithurmond said:
Were the two does first fresheners when they had singletons? I agree, your buck won't have any more trouble fertilizing 2 or 3 eggs than he will fertilizing 1.


Free, didn't you say that your two singletons have now produced multiples? If your does weren't ff's last time perhaps it was nutritional?
Well, that is all clear as mud!!!

One was an older doe of undetermined age who had a single two years in a row and twins this year. The other was a ff who was a single herself, had a single her first time, and had triplets this year. The third was the second doe's singleton and she had triplets the first time. Following all that? :p

Here, maybe this will work:

Last time:

Mya x LM = single doeling, Plum
Ginger x LM = single doeling, Peach

This time:

Mya x Dorian = twins
Ginger x Dorian = triplets
Peach x Dorian = triplets
Plum x Dorian = :hide

I fed them the same way the year before, flushing with pumpkins and squash in the fall and early winter, when those veggies are available free from the farm next door. The only feed variable that I can think of is the hay, which never comes from the same place twice, as it is hard to get second cut here if you don't buy it when it is cut and store enough for the entire year. I don't have the room.
 

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Yes, that's how I understood it. If the sire was in question, the fact that his singleton offspring have now produced multiples themselves should clear that up.
 

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Just thought of a major difference....with the La Mancha buck, I walked the doe into his pen 2-3 times during her heat and let him breed her. With Dorian, well, I left Ginger in with him for a couple of days, then the following month he escaped into the does' pasture to breed Mya and I just left him in there, moving the two does that I didn't want bred into his pen after reinforcing the fence. So he bred and bred and bred each doe as she came into heat.

Does this make a difference?
 

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freemotion said:
Just thought of a major difference....with the La Mancha buck, I walked the doe into his pen 2-3 times during her heat and let him breed her. With Dorian, well, I left Ginger in with him for a couple of days, then the following month he escaped into the does' pasture to breed Mya and I just left him in there, moving the two does that I didn't want bred into his pen after reinforcing the fence. So he bred and bred and bred each doe as she came into heat.

Does this make a difference?
Hmmm. interesting. We always just leave our bucks with our does, never have low numbers. but I would think if she was ovulating the number of eggs would already be there. We feed corn for 2 weeks before breeding for flushing. Along with a bo-se shot. I always assumed flushing was giving us consistant numbers. And age of doe does matter. a younger doe is more likely to have less kids that an older doe. ATleast the first couple of years. AT age 3 I am seeing this level off.
 
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