Will BoSe fix this leg? Update on therapy that is working so far!

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All the does got a shot of BoSe when Ginger's kids were a bit loose in the joints about a month ago. And B vitamins and Red Cell for five days. All were bolused a couple or three months ago.

The buck got all but the BoSe....now I'm thinking, why didn't I give him BoSe, too? Guess I should get out there with a needle, huh?

And the young ff doe who is due June 19....she still has rusty thighs in spite of all these efforts. She is the lowest in the herd, but quick and clever. I hand feed her the minerals the most. What else can I do to help her? She is not big at all, I'm hoping for a tiny, single, properly presented doeling! On day 150 at noon! I think I deserve that much from SOMEONE on this farmlet!

 

[ksalvagno]

I think cmjust0 was experimenting with giving copper monthly or something to help with barberpole. I doubt if he is giving a full dose if he is doing it monthly.

I was using a goat sweet feed which I think the iron in the molasses was inhibiting the copper so I have stopped using it and I'm hoping to see a difference. I know you don't feed that though. I'm also going to give them some organic iodine in the very near future. A friend of mine was having problems with dandruff and rough coats and the iodine really made a difference.

I really suspect that your little guy was womb placement more than anything. Sometimes that just happens. I also think that with multiples like 3 or more, the kids just don't get enough selenium. With both my quads, I had one kid that I had to give Bose to the day they were born. Also happened to be the largest size kid in both cases.

My personal opinion is that the weather is affecting stuff too. Between the cold winter and all this rain, it has to be affecting stuff. I have never heard of so many problems from so many different people. I was feeling so alone with all the problems I was having with the goats but all I have to do is make a couple phone calls or look on forums and see that this seems to be a very bad year for everything.

 

[DonnaBelle]

Yes, I agree with Karen about the weather. We've had 20 inches of rain in the last month.

I can remember in 2005 we were on our knees praying for rain.

The drought was broken the day we started building house out here at the ranch. It has rained a lot in Oklahoma since May 15 in 2009. LOL.

I know that in Ohio, it's rained even more. I'm concerned about the animals on farms in the Mississippi river bottoms and the Delta.

Not only do they have to worry about more parasites, but have to find high ground for their animals.

DonnaBelle

 

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Thanks for the reminder, I need to water my garden today again! It has been dry here. We got a reasonable amount of rain, now it has been dry-dry-dry lately.

 

[redtailgal]

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That sounds like a plan, I think I'll try that. I've been massaging (deep tissue, I'm not afraid, lots of experience with people and horses and good palpation skills and feel for tissue change) him everytime he gets a bottle but I will play with splinting this evening after work.

 

[20kidsonhill]

All the does got a shot of BoSe when Ginger's kids were a bit loose in the joints about a month ago. And B vitamins and Red Cell for five days. All were bolused a couple or three months ago.

The buck got all but the BoSe....now I'm thinking, why didn't I give him BoSe, too? Guess I should get out there with a needle, huh?

And the young ff doe who is due June 19....she still has rusty thighs in spite of all these efforts. She is the lowest in the herd, but quick and clever. I hand feed her the minerals the most. What else can I do to help her? She is not big at all, I'm hoping for a tiny, single, properly presented doeling! On day 150 at noon! I think I deserve that much from SOMEONE on this farmlet!

I don't think you are going to prevent every issue all the time, once and a while things happen. Just saying wouldn't beat yourself up about it. My doe that has had two years in a row triplets with one or two deformed kids both times is the heaviest meatiest doe out there, she looks sturdy and well taken care of. Keep scratching our heads wondering what the heck is going on. maybe a problem with a part of her uterus? mineral problem? Had to be pulled both times to get the deformed kids out? What did survive were amazing and went on to have great results in the show rink. But hard to sell any of her does for breeding stock, not knowing what is going on. Her offspring are all considered terminal at this point and time, And we have decided to supplement her heavy with copper this year and if we don't have better results on her next kidding it will be her last time.

And I will second the no complaining about the rain, I am even trying not to complain about having to treat extra for cocci this season. We had no pasture most of last summer.

Bring on The Rain!!!

 

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OK, update already! Taking the info gleaned from several of you and piecing it together, this is what I have been doing....Deep tissue massage (skilled, mind you, I am an instructor and teach continuing ed, too, no fluff-n-buff massage here, I work with people and horses to improve range of motion and improve performance with some national caliber athletes) on the check ligaments and on the ligaments of the knee, fetlock, and pasterns, the flexor tendons, with ROM warm-ups before and stretching after. I work to the depth that just makes him squeak, but then the little sweetie lays his head on me and sighs. (Uh-oh! ) I do this 4-5 times a day, after each bottle and then if I get a chance to visit in between.

Tonight I had to look at him a couple of times in the low light to remember which leg it was! So I didn't splint it. He still walks carefully on it and isn't really hopping around with the others much yet, but then again, he is probably a little sore after his therapy and that is always when I see him.

This will be a nice little science experiment....

 

[Roll farms]

Are you giving him anything for pain / inflamation?

Not sayin' ya should, mind...just wondering if that would help / alter / change how he's using it. Just thinking out loud / absorbing this so that if it comes up, I'll know.

Thanks for sharing this w/ us!

PS...can you come do some deep tissue therapy on my sore, overdoing it in the garden self, please and thanks????

 

[Snowhunter]

OK, update already! Taking the info gleaned from several of you and piecing it together, this is what I have been doing....Deep tissue massage (skilled, mind you, I am an instructor and teach continuing ed, too, no fluff-n-buff massage here, I work with people and horses to improve range of motion and improve performance with some national caliber athletes) on the check ligaments and on the ligaments of the knee, fetlock, and pasterns, the flexor tendons, with ROM warm-ups before and stretching after. I work to the depth that just makes him squeak, but then the little sweetie lays his head on me and sighs. (Uh-oh! ) I do this 4-5 times a day, after each bottle and then if I get a chance to visit in between.

Tonight I had to look at him a couple of times in the low light to remember which leg it was! So I didn't splint it. He still walks carefully on it and isn't really hopping around with the others much yet, but then again, he is probably a little sore after his therapy and that is always when I see him.

This will be a nice little science experiment....

Oh Free! I'm so glad to hear he's doin better!!!!