2 month old has runny poop

[20kidsonhill]

Can you make sense of the fact that all of my goats are playful, healthy eaters, and don't look a bit sick?

There is a chance it is not cocci, but with scours and a young goat who is stressed to some extent, it just seems the most likely. That's why it is good to get a fecal done to find out and solve the problem before it turns bad and they start going downhill. What are you feeding them? Have they gotten into anything lately (horse food barrel, etc)? Are they still young enough to be drinking milk? Are they outside? Have they (or their dam when she was pregnant) been given a CD&T vaccination?

I feed them this: http://www.tractorsupply.com/feed-solutions-sweet-mix-50-lb--2427127

No, we only have goats. We have a dog that goes outside a lot, but his food stays inside because of ants. There is nothing unusual they could have eaten.

The previous owners said they only gave the babies meds for worm prevention. Should I get my 4 goats the CD&T vaccination?

Roll did a great job explaining. Sorry, I jumped off. I went and watched a movie with my husband. We do recommend vaccinating for CD&T. A small bottle and a couple needles and syringes shouldn't cost mroe than $10.00. Very easy to do. Tetnus isn't as common as Overeating Disease. The CD part of the vaccine is Overeating Disease. That is pretty common.

having a bottle of dimethoxine on hand is a very good idea. Really no reason to not use it. Our kids are treated on a regular basis their first spring and summer. And all goats that we send home to new ownders are given enough for one treatment, incase they bloom from the stress of the move. Many people treat for coccidiosis on a regular basis.

 

[MrsCowher]

Are you saying people use the stronger liquid, rather than the preventive powder, frequently to avoid the goats getting sick?

Update: A vet that is maybe 5 miles away has told me that they will test my goats. It will only cost $15.

I have a question. You know when goat's poop is in a ball put you can see some pellets? Is that something I can take or should I wait for the runny kind? I'm asking because I wasn't home when that poop ended up on the porch and am not entirely sure that it came from the goat I believe to be sick.

Also, should I wait and collect pellets from each goat I see poop and then go to vet?

If they say my goat(s) have cocci, I just need to give Di-Methox, right? Anything else I need to do?

 

[20kidsonhill]

Are you saying people use the stronger liquid, rather than the preventive powder, frequently to avoid the goats getting sick?

Update: A vet that is maybe 5 miles away has told me that they will test my goats. It will only cost $15.

I have a question. You know when goat's poop is in a ball put you can see some pellets? Is that something I can take or should I wait for the runny kind? I'm asking because I wasn't home when that poop ended up on the porch and am not entirely sure that it came from the goat I believe to be sick.

Also, should I wait and collect pellets from each goat I see poop and then go to vet?

If they say my goat(s) have cocci, I just need to give Di-Methox, right? Anything else I need to do?

di-methox is what you need.
I don't use the 40%, we use either the powder or premixed liquid in a gallon, I think it is 12.5%, we don't dose as high as some people recommend on this forum I doubt your vet will recommend dosing that high either. We also use Corid a lot. Either one will normally work. they are given for 5 days in a row, more like treating bacteria than parasites, like using an antibiotic compared to some of the wormers.

No I wasn't saying they use the stonger liquid compared to the powder, Either one can be used at any desired concentration. It just depends how much you use of each. The powder, 40% di-methoxine and the gallon jug of di-methoxine are really all the same thing. Just need to be dosed properly to give you the right amount of active ingredients per lb of the animal.
Same with Corid, comes in liquid or powder, doesn't really matter which one you get. I find powder a little harder to measure out and mix. But it all works the same.

You have what you need.

as far as collecting fecals, for sure get a fresh one. We have done both, we have mixed the fecals from a couple goats in a group and took it in as one sample and we have had two or three individual samples taken in from individual animals. You are probably okay getting one sample from the sickest goat and using that. You can collect and refridgerate until you bring it in, but collect a fresh sample and not one that was laying on the ground for an unknown amount of time.

 

[MrsCowher]

I appreciate all of the help y'all are giving me. I admit I am rather nervous and confused about this.

I have just hosed off the porch (unfortunately their favorite poop spot) and have given them their breakfast. I think I will lie in the hammock while I wait for them to do their business.

They can test normal pellets, right?

 

[20kidsonhill]

I appreciate all of the help y'all are giving me. I admit I am rather nervous and confused about this.

I have just hosed off the porch (unfortunately their favorite poop spot) and have given them their breakfast. I think I will lie in the hammock while I wait for them to do their business.

They can test normal pellets, right?

Yes, sorry I missed that question. Pellets can be normal looking that is fine. Make sure you mention coccidiosis to the vet.

 

[MrsCowher]

Awesome. Will the test they do also tell them if it's overeating disease? Speaking of that, is overeating disease a big deal or something that can be cured?

 

[20kidsonhill]

Awesome. Will the test they do also tell them if it's overeating disease? Speaking of that, is overeating disease a big deal or something that can be cured?

They can survive overeating disease. But more than likely yours don't have it since they are doing so well. I lost one this summer from overeating disease. she was fine looking the night before, scouring(very runny poop) this next morning and looking like she wasn't feeling well, I decided to wait to treat her when my husband got home from work, she was a good 80 lbs and not tame. and when I tried to approach her she was very alert and would run off. So I made the bad decision of leaving her alone until later in the day. By 1pm in the afternoon she was bloated like a hot air balloon, down on her side, and dead in another 30 minutes after that. It is a very fast.

You will have to talk to the vet about what they test for, Bacterial compared to parasites. I don't think they will test for bacterial unless you ask, and I am sure it is a different test and takes longer. Honestly, don't know much about that.

There is a medicine called C&D Antitoxin, is the treatment for overeating disease, it is not the vaccine. The vaccine will say Toxoid on the bottle and the treatment will say antibody on the bottle. Bigger farms keep it on hand all the time, and use it pretty much any time they have kids that are scouring. I haven't owned a bottle in 14 years of raising 30 ro 50 kids a year. We got our first bottle this year and we have used it. I feel positive it saved one of my kids this summer.

I have read where people were having problems with their goat scouring and having constant upset stomachs, especially young kids and bottle babies and giving them C&D antitoxin really helped them get over it.

 

[MrsCowher]

I've been able to collect fresh fecal from 3 out of 4 of my goats. I think I missed the 4th one pooping while I was looking for the 3rd one's.

One of the two month old babies let out one runny lump that is only an inch and a half long. Will that be enough to test? Also, my three month old girl only let out 26 or so pellets. Will that be enough?

Can I safely assume that if my 3 goats have cocci, so does the 4th? Is it likely that only one or two will have it?

 

[Roll farms]

That should be plenty. I'd be more concerned w/ the kid's poop (as far as cocci) but it's a good idea to get adults checked for worms.

We vaccinate kids 2x w/ CD/T (10 days and 30 days old) then 1x yearly for tetanus / overeating disease prevention.

 

[MrsCowher]

That should be plenty. I'd be more concerned w/ the kid's poop (as far as cocci) but it's a good idea to get adults checked for worms.

We vaccinate kids 2x w/ CD/T (10 days and 30 days old) then 1x yearly for tetanus / overeating disease prevention.

Are you saying that my adult might not have it? My 1-2 year old had big runny poop this morning, which I was able to collect. Her 4 month old baby has normal pellets this morning.