Aggressive doe.

[ohiofarmgirl]

i wouldnt keep a mean doe either.. but i have a VERY bossy gal who is with us for the summer. she's a good milker so i dont want to take her back early.

however, she's huge (bigger than me) and has pushed me down twice. the last time she was getting pushy she "met the dog." i called our #1 Dog over and he put her in her place - he didnt bite or attack her - he just knows how to keep aggressive animals (rooster, gander, pigz) off me.

she didnt think it was so funny anymore and is now much better behaved. if she gets saucy i just yell "DOG!" like i'm calling him and she snaps right in line.

not a solution for everyone but i think that Crown has a point about dominance.

 

[SDGsoap&dairy]

I haven't had much experience with this, and I don't know if this will work in this situation but it's worth a try. If she is a full sized goat you'll probably need two men to help. "Tackle" the doe to where she is lying on the ground. Her main caretaker needs to straddle her lightly (don't put all your weight on her, just enough to help keep her down). When she submits (stops struggling, puts her head down, becomes calm) get up. This is letting her know YOUR boss. Now as boss make it very clear to her what behavior you will allow or not allow, in whatever way your comfortable with. I would try methods they use, (biting ears etc).

You may have to "tackle" her a couple times to get the message across. We tried it recently with our yearling buck (for screaming) and it worked great!

I don't know if it will work for your doe, but it's worth a shot.

Our herd has a definite hierarchy. While there is one doe clearly in charge of the rest, there is also hierarchy among the rest of the herd such that even the second lowest goat on the totem pole is pushy with the lowest goat. I frequently see a middle of the pack goat get shoved out of the trough only to turn and take it out on a bottom of the pack doe. While she may learn that she's not YOUR boss when you tackle her, I'm not convinced it would change her behavior towards the other goats. Unless THEY tackle her.

 

[aggieterpkatie]

While she may learn that she's not YOUR boss when you tackle her, I'm not convinced it would change her behavior towards the other goats. Unless THEY tackle her.

I agree. Dog psychology and goat psychology are way different, because dogs are predators and goats are prey. I've never seen goats pin each other, but that would be funny. And unless you're going to stay out there and tackle the herd queen every single time she gets snotty with another goat, I don't see how it would work. It's a nice thought though!

 

[SDGsoap&dairy]

While she may learn that she's not YOUR boss when you tackle her, I'm not convinced it would change her behavior towards the other goats. Unless THEY tackle her.

I agree. Dog psychology and goat psychology are way different, because dogs are predators and goats are prey. I've never seen goats pin each other, but that would be funny. And unless you're going to stay out there and tackle the herd queen every single time she gets snotty with another goat, I don't see how it would work. It's a nice thought though!

You won't even find consensus in the dog training community that this is effective!

 

[Melissa'sDreamFarm]

Goat tackling? New contact sport? Count me in.

 

[20kidsonhill]

I will first apologize to Crownthorns: I try really hard to keep an open mind with everyones opinions, but the tackling the goat thing really made me laugh. I don't see how it would help with a really bossy doe in the herd, maybe a doe mean towards people.

I did try blowing into a couple kids faces the other day when I was sitting with them, we have 9 to halter and take to weigh-in in one week and not any of them have been handled. Should be fun.

We have had some luck putting open-ended divider walls up in our barn, and extending them off of the feeders, We use plywood so the aggresive does can't see who is along side of them. They still can come around and run a doe out of the section, but it seems to really help all the goats get a chance to eat. Often one bossy doe will claim the 4 foot section and 5 other does have to squeeze into the adjacent 4 foot section, but I would just put more feed infront of the 5 does and less infront of the single doe. If I do the same pattern of feeding every day, the does seem to stay in the same places, so I would know where to put more feed and less feed.

Otherwise, One doe could run all the other does away from several feet of feeder space, the other does would just give up, until she was done eating. We had one doe that would lay in the barn right in front of the entire length of feeder most of the day, she decided that was her 16 feet of feeder space. when we put up the divider walls it really helped a lot.

 

[SDGsoap&dairy]

That's a great idea 20kids!

 

[20kidsonhill]

That's a great idea 20kids!

My husband's idea, we tried wire panel fencing for a couple years, but they would just pound on it, since they could see each other, it did help some, but the plywood has helped the most. AFter they ripped up the panel fencing, we switched to plywood.

oh, it is cut to 36" high, since these are the same boards we use for our kidding pens and creep feed zone.

 

[RPC]

Thank you all for your reply's I think this doe will have to find a new home. It really sucks because I like her but I don't want any more hurt goats. The problem is not at feeding time because now that there is a ton of grass we don't give them grain. She is just a nasty do to be around if you are another goat. So if anyone wants a pet boer doe hit me up I have one as long as you don't have other goats. Lol

 

[AlaskanShepherdess]

While she may learn that she's not YOUR boss when you tackle her, I'm not convinced it would change her behavior towards the other goats. Unless THEY tackle her.

I agree. Dog psychology and goat psychology are way different, because dogs are predators and goats are prey. I've never seen goats pin each other, but that would be funny. And unless you're going to stay out there and tackle the herd queen every single time she gets snotty with another goat, I don't see how it would work. It's a nice thought though!

You won't even find consensus in the dog training community that this is effective!

It's very effective on our dog, she gets snotty with us girls and when she does we do that, and her attitude straightens right up! I had someone recommend it to me to try on my herd queen because she wont let one of the girls eat at all. Haven't tried it yet, but it has worked VERY well on my bucks. I did it with them for screaming and they are very quiet, all I need to do now if they start getting louder then I like (haven't heard ANY screams from them for several days now!!) I squirt them with a spray bottle and they become quieter then mice.

I'm actually heading out to do this on mama goat and her daughter since the squirt bottle alone is actually making it worse, they are now screaming out of defiance. So I'm going to try it and see if it works. I hope so because this is insane, I cannot handle a goat screaming 20 hours of the day. If it doesn't work then she goes into the freezer even though she's my best doe.

I don't know if it will work in RPC's instance, but it does work in others for sure.