Banding

[SarahFair]

I came across a deal yesterday and traded some chickens for a 5 month old boar cross billy.
I deffenetly want to neuter him and want to do it via banding.

I talked to a woman on youtube who had a video of it and she said 5 months is a little old but it is possible and maybe have to do it via cattle bands.

Has anyone done it to an older goat before?

 

[aggieterpkatie]

I came across a deal yesterday and traded some chickens for a 5 month old boar cross billy.
I deffenetly want to neuter him and want to do it via banding.

I talked to a woman on youtube who had a video of it and she said 5 months is a little old but it is possible and maybe have to do it via cattle bands.

Has anyone done it to an older goat before?

I've seen it done on older sheep before. I'd think as long as you can fit the band around the testicles it'd be ok. You may want to use 2 together just to make sure one doesn't break. I'd also go ahead and give him CD/T or at least give him a tetanus antitoxin shot when your band him.

 

[cmjust0]

One that old, I probably wouldn't band. That's a situation where I'd seriously consider either taking him to the vet to be cut, or at least get a little syringe of Rompum from the vet and cut him at home.

Well, no, lemme take that back.

To be perfectly honest, I'd totally take him to the vet. I don't think I'd have the heart to cut one that old, and I doubt I could band him either.


Something else you have to consider is that...well...I'm a guy.

 

[SarahFair]

One that old, I probably wouldn't band. That's a situation where I'd seriously consider either taking him to the vet to be cut, or at least get a little syringe of Rompum from the vet and cut him at home.

Well, no, lemme take that back.

To be perfectly honest, I'd totally take him to the vet. I don't think I'd have the heart to cut one that old, and I doubt I could band him either.


Something else you have to consider is that...well...I'm a guy.

I think I could do it here on my own..
When you say cut do you mean cut the testicals off??
I was on another forum and they suggested Masculators?

 

[cmjust0]

Yep...I'm talking about cutting them off. Or, cutting them out...depending on how you look at it.. Typically, the bottom third of the sack is sliced clean off, then the sack is pushed up over the testes to expose them, and then they're cut off.

My vet has a tool -- not an emasculatome...more on that in a second -- but a tool that cuts the testes off and crushes all the loose ends on the 'upstream' side to prevent the animal from bleeding out so badly. I'm not sure what the tool is called.

There's also a tool called an emasculatome, which basically crushes the vas deferens and blood supply to the testes. It's billed as a 'bloodless castrator.' You might also hear them referred to as 'ritchie nippers.' The only way to tell if a bloodless castration 'took' is to ensure that the testes stop growing.

Cut, band, or crush...pretty much the three ways of going about it.

 

[SarahFair]

And I can do any of these at home?

 

[cadman68]

i'd say u could do two out of the three at home, but unless you are very familiar and/or confident with surgical type procedures on animals and have access to some type of pain/anesthesia(local at least) medicene, i would leave the cutting up to a qualified vet. It can be a painful and deadly procedure unless you know what you're doing.

 

[SarahFair]

i'd say u could do two out of the three at home, but unless you are very familiar and/or confident with surgical type procedures on animals and have access to some type of pain/anesthesia(local at least) medicene, i would leave the cutting up to a qualified vet. It can be a painful and deadly procedure unless you know what you're doing.

Ive had to amputate a chickens wing once and mend dislocated joints...
I think if I did my research I could do it. Im pretty confident in myself when it comes to such things.

I just fear the young goat doesnt trust me much now and he deffenetly wont trust me after




I really want to go with banding. I dont have a bander though and dont really know who to go to. The tesicals would fill a handfull so Im guessing Im going to have to use cow bands?
Who should I try contacting?


I talked to my SOs cousin who worked at various vets for 5+ years (but has no schooling) and she said its pretty inhumane and only old school vets and farmers do it nowa days. I dont really have a lot of faith in her words though as she has been wrong in the past.

 

[cmjust0]

I talked to my SOs cousin who worked at various vets for 5+ years (but has no schooling) and she said its pretty inhumane and only old school vets and farmers do it nowa days. I dont really have a lot of faith in her words though as she has been wrong in the past.

Your SO's cuz is right in terms of how things are trending these days.. Banding seems to be getting a bad rap, though it's still done a whole lot.

Lots of old school farmers band, and my vet will do it if specifically requested...but the vets much prefer cutting. They say they recover faster if they're cut, versus being banded.

Then again, there are some old old school farmers cut calves right on the farm. Ya know...because the bands cost money, whereas they already have a pocketknife.

 

[SarahFair]

I think Im just going to look up how to cut here at the house. I have a friend that works down at a local vet office who assits in dogs all the time. Cant be much different right?