Baymule’s Journal

[Ridgetop]

I wonder how many of those young "Off Gridders" actually stay committed to tht life style before they embrace electricity and modern conveniences.

To me being "off grid" means not being involved in the fuss and hassle of city life, not seeing the bums littering the streets with their garbage, drugs and crime, etc.

 

[Weldman]

I wonder how many of those young "Off Gridders" actually stay committed to tht life style before they embrace electricity and modern conveniences.

To me being "off grid" means not being involved in the fuss and hassle of city life, not seeing the bums littering the streets with their garbage, drugs and crime, etc.

Most of these "off grid" folks got a power pole at the end of their driveway and as soon as the cameras fade they are plugging back in. Most aren't really off grid as they claim to fame since they are still hooked up to a grid of water or internet, maybe sewage or gas too.
Want to know what real off grid is like, come on out here for a week or two and leave your cell phone at home cause soon as you walk 100' in any direction from my pole barn that's it for any signal.

Doesn't make you a better person to be off grid or you are doing right for the environment and you sure aren't sticking it to the man. You are paying one way or another, watts are watts no matter where you get the energy from and it's cheaper to just hook up to the pole if it's within range.

We just changed materials to get energy from with EV's, you still are going to pull so much materials from the earth. Don't mind this generator right below the wind turbines to keep the power from a turbine from fluctuating as the wind goes up and down, don't mind the 100's of gallons of oil in the turbine itself, don't mind the guy driving a truck to go service them, nor the 400 cu yards of concrete to make the base, the machinery and rigs it took to bring it all in and install for it all to only last 15 to 20 years.
I digress....

 

[Baymule]

Most of these "off grid" folks got a power pole at the end of their driveway and as soon as the cameras fade they are plugging back in. Most aren't really off grid as they claim to fame since they are still hooked up to a grid of water or internet, maybe sewage or gas too.
Want to know what real off grid is like, come on out here for a week or two and leave your cell phone at home cause soon as you walk 100' in any direction from my pole barn that's it for any signal.

Doesn't make you a better person to be off grid or you are doing right for the environment and you sure aren't sticking it to the man. You are paying one way or another, watts are watts no matter where you get the energy from and it's cheaper to just hook up to the pole if it's within range.

We just changed materials to get energy from with EV's, you still are going to pull so much materials from the earth. Don't mind this generator right below the wind turbines to keep the power from a turbine from fluctuating as the wind goes up and down, don't mind the 100's of gallons of oil in the turbine itself, don't mind the guy driving a truck to go service them, nor the 400 cu yards of concrete to make the base, the machinery and rigs it took to bring it all in and install for it all to only last 15 to 20 years.
I digress....

I couldn’t agree more!

 

[Weldman]

I couldn’t agree more!

I have worked on the wind farm burying the cables that connect all the turbines, I don't speak from hearsay, I have seen it!

 

[Baymule]

Most of this “save the environment from oil” is a bunch of hooey. Yes it produces energy but what did it take to get it there? Wind turbines have a limited lifespan, same with solar power panels. Battery operated cars….

 

[Alaskan]

From what I understand a generator/propeller thing in a stream is the best choice energy input verses output. I think wind turbines are some of the worst.

 

[SageHill]

There’s oil or oil byproducts in sooooo many things. Plastic, synthetics etc the list is huge. I’m with @Baymule it’s all a bunch of hooy.

 

[canesisters]

Most of this “save the environment from oil” is a bunch of hooey. Yes it produces energy but what did it take to get it there? Wind turbines have a limited lifespan, same with solar power panels. Battery operated cars….

There is a small solar farm near me, looks like an acre or less. When I was at the landfill, we would get a 40yd rolloff from there almost every month. Almost exclusively broken/ not working panels. A lot of tons of waste for a tech that's supposed to save the environment.

 

[fuzzi]

There is a small solar farm near me, looks like an acre or less. When I was at the landfill, we would get a 40yd rolloff from there almost every month. Almost exclusively broken/ not working panels. A lot of tons of waste for a tech that's supposed to save the environment.

It's "Green", which means someone is getting rich from it

 

[Ridgetop]

Wind used to be used on every ranch to work the well pump. The windmills were small, repairable, and did their job well. You can also use solar panes in the well pump too. I have a fried who had to do that in Kennedy Meadows near Bishop CA because that entire area has NO ELECTRIC power. People have to use either generators or solar. Of course, hardly anyone lives there year round.

Wind mills and water mills have been in use for thousands of years. Power is still generated by "water mills" aka water pwered turbines in the various large dams. The main problems with "green energy" is tht it is more expensive, and people jumped into it before knowing enough about how to dispose of the giant windmill blades and solar panels which can't be recycled economically.
They are also ugly.