CDT Vaccine and CD Antitoxin! Learned something new today!

[highs41]

I wanted to share something that I learned today. Even having goaties for a while I just never knew this about the CDT Vaccines and CD Antitoxins use.

And yes I feel a little silly for not knowing this for years and using these products.

So now that you done giggeling!!

Here's what I learned...when you use the CD Antitoxin for treatment of a sick animal the "C & D antitoxin negates any protection previously given by CD/T vaccine therefore, wait for at least five days and re-vaccinate and booster."

Thanks to Blacksheep and Roll. I understand the use and looked into it more. I have used CD on kids and did not re-vaccinate..and luckily for me they were protected enough from the booster they were givin which was scheduled anyway. Soo I lucked out thankfully!

Im sharing cuz I hope it may help someone else who had the same assumption I had. Cuz I had the wrong thought process for years about those shots and Im thankful it was discussed here!

The CDT vaccine is so important for goats...and that I understand cuz the death from those diseases it prevents are horrible. So its important to have adequate protection. Learn something new everyday..and thankful!

But it all makes complete sense now!!! Hope it helps someone else!!!

I am not sure I understand about the C&D antitoxin negating previously given CD/T vaccines? What is the difference? I want to get this right because we have tetnus in our ground and have baby goats and a calf to die with it! Any you are right it is a horrible death. We put ours down as soon as we knew what it was! Please help me understand. I have the CD/T vaccine from local feed store and I followed the directions on bottle first shot with booster in about 21 -28 days, then once annually!

 

[elevan]

I wanted to share something that I learned today. Even having goaties for a while I just never knew this about the CDT Vaccines and CD Antitoxins use.

And yes I feel a little silly for not knowing this for years and using these products.

So now that you done giggeling!!

Here's what I learned...when you use the CD Antitoxin for treatment of a sick animal the "C & D antitoxin negates any protection previously given by CD/T vaccine therefore, wait for at least five days and re-vaccinate and booster."

Thanks to Blacksheep and Roll. I understand the use and looked into it more. I have used CD on kids and did not re-vaccinate..and luckily for me they were protected enough from the booster they were givin which was scheduled anyway. Soo I lucked out thankfully!

Im sharing cuz I hope it may help someone else who had the same assumption I had. Cuz I had the wrong thought process for years about those shots and Im thankful it was discussed here!

The CDT vaccine is so important for goats...and that I understand cuz the death from those diseases it prevents are horrible. So its important to have adequate protection. Learn something new everyday..and thankful!

But it all makes complete sense now!!! Hope it helps someone else!!!

I am not sure I understand about the C&D antitoxin negating previously given CD/T vaccines? What is the difference? I want to get this right because we have tetnus in our ground and have baby goats and a calf to die with it! Any you are right it is a horrible death. We put ours down as soon as we knew what it was! Please help me understand. I have the CD/T vaccine from local feed store and I followed the directions on bottle first shot with booster in about 21 -28 days, then once annually!

The toxoid is the vaccine and you have that right.

The antitoxin is used to treat the disease and once you give the antitoxin you will need to give the toxoid again as the toxoid's effects will be negated (or removed) by the use of the antitoxin.

 

[highs41]

I wanted to share something that I learned today. Even having goaties for a while I just never knew this about the CDT Vaccines and CD Antitoxins use.

And yes I feel a little silly for not knowing this for years and using these products.

So now that you done giggeling!!

Here's what I learned...when you use the CD Antitoxin for treatment of a sick animal the "C & D antitoxin negates any protection previously given by CD/T vaccine therefore, wait for at least five days and re-vaccinate and booster."

Thanks to Blacksheep and Roll. I understand the use and looked into it more. I have used CD on kids and did not re-vaccinate..and luckily for me they were protected enough from the booster they were givin which was scheduled anyway. Soo I lucked out thankfully!

Im sharing cuz I hope it may help someone else who had the same assumption I had. Cuz I had the wrong thought process for years about those shots and Im thankful it was discussed here!

The CDT vaccine is so important for goats...and that I understand cuz the death from those diseases it prevents are horrible. So its important to have adequate protection. Learn something new everyday..and thankful!

But it all makes complete sense now!!! Hope it helps someone else!!!

I am not sure I understand about the C&D antitoxin negating previously given CD/T vaccines? What is the difference? I want to get this right because we have tetnus in our ground and have baby goats and a calf to die with it! Any you are right it is a horrible death. We put ours down as soon as we knew what it was! Please help me understand. I have the CD/T vaccine from local feed store and I followed the directions on bottle first shot with booster in about 21 -28 days, then once annually!

The toxoid is the vaccine and you have that right.

The antitoxin is used to treat the disease and once you give the antitoxin you will need to give the toxoid again as the toxoid's effects will be negated (or removed) by the use of the antitoxin.

So will the Anti-toxin actuallt cure the tetanus? I was told a few years ago that there was nothing to cure it! If it will cure the goat, that is a relief! I still plan to do all I can to keep my animals and children safe from getting it!

 

[elevan]

I've never had to use it...so I don't know for certain the answer. To be quite honest I've never had to deal with tetnus in any species **knocking on wood right now**

 

[Roll farms]

Curing (more accurately, treating) tetanus is difficult.

In fact, my vet said it was 'nearly impossible'...but then she and I did save one. I helped a 4-H kid save her doe w/ it, too...but the only way it's possible is if you catch it / act fast / treat quickly w/ the anti toxin and penicillin and steroids.

Keep the goat's rumen going while it can't eat by drenching w/ a fiber slurry, and supportive therapy is critical, too.

I've read there's something like 95% fatality rate w/ tetanus.

 

[highs41]

Curing (more accurately, treating) tetanus is difficult.

In fact, my vet said it was 'nearly impossible'...but then she and I did save one. I helped a 4-H kid save her doe w/ it, too...but the only way it's possible is if you catch it / act fast / treat quickly w/ the anti toxin and penicillin and steroids.

Keep the goat's rumen going while it can't eat by drenching w/ a fiber slurry, and supportive therapy is critical, too.

I've read there's something like 95% fatality rate w/ tetanus.

Yea We found our baby goats the morning after they were born and they were already rigid with tetanus! It was horrible! My dad had a calf with it and tried the Penicillin but it only prolonged it! So my dad told us it was bus to go ahead and put the goats down, so we did not knowing about the Anti-toxin! Wish I knew then what I know now!

 

[Emmetts Dairy]

Hope this simplifies things.

CD&T is a vacination and you are correct with giving the kids the shot then following up with the booster of the vaccination as you stated. Thats a yes..you are understanding that correctly.

The antitoxin is a remedy...a shot to help not only tetnus but other ailments as well at times.

But the issue I learned was that if you ever have to give the "antitoxin" for any reason you must revaccinate with the CD&T vacination and booster. What happens is the Antitoxin will negate/remove/make ineffective the vaccination when given for whatever reason. Not sure on the technical aspects.

Does that make sense???? It took me a bit too..so dont hesitate to ask again or ask specific things that are confusing...no worries!!