Cissy is positive for CL, vet is trying to convince not to euthanize.

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Really sorry to hear this.. We all know how much time you've put into these two.

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:( I feel terrible about all of this, and to top it off the people who were supposed to come back for Cissy and Mione... well it looks like they're not coming back. I feel awful with Cissy outside at night alone in the dog run and I'm not sure what to do anymore. We absolutely cannot keep going this way, the cost is getting enormous. The vet bill from yesterday was $500! I need to find them a home but I'm seriously doubting anyone is going to want a goat with an infectious disease.... And I couldn't ever send them to auction, not only would our auctions not take them but i'd feel awful doing it too.
 

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Another Cissy update, looks like she has another cyst just above the first one, (the little round ball one that was drained about a month ago, not really like the big one we had drained this weekend, its a lot smaller once again). I don't know where or what these things are. CL or not, she is finding a new home with Mione. It may not be with the people that took April (though they called last night), we had another call from a woman who was interested in them, which is good :)

On the other hand, I got Cissy's feet trimmed today... Those Hoof Rot Shears I picked up at TSC? Gods gift to goat owners! Holy moly, Cissy is now sportin' little goatie feet. I had to rest, she's quite a freighttrain and it was a struggle doing her backs. After I get my passport photos done I'm going to tackle Mione's feet and then we'll be done :)

I checked Cissy's cyst this morning, it felt crusty and it is scabbing over SO she's back in with Mione today. Bluekoted it, shot of penicillin and we're good to go. I suspect Mione was more happy to see Cissy than Cissy was to see Mione haha. Mione was like OHH MY LOVE, MY ONE TRUE LOVE and Cissy just stared at her and smelled her butt =P
 

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I have a purple and white pygmy cross =/ She's going to be spotted soon if these cysts don't stop popping up. Anyone have ideas on draining this new one, I can't afford to call the vet out for another $200 bill. She was scratching it today, but its small... just about the size of the first cyst and about an inch or two above it. I was thinking of leaving it for a few days (all supposing no one takes her) and then draining it myself =/ not looking forward to it but you gotta do what ya gotta do. Since nothing is draining right now she's in with Mione again until this one looks ready to go.
 

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One of my favorite goats had a large abscess on her neck, filled with pus. Took her to the vet who said that it was indeed a lymph node and he used a syringe to take a sample and it was pus. a month later we took her back because it had only gotten bigger (size of my fist) and had him lance it out back of his office in the parking lot, drain it and pack it with iodine. We gave her penicilling shots for a week. She has not gotten another abscess since. It cost us under $50 total. He advised against sending it out for tests saying that it was most likely CL and he didn't feel that should be a death sentence for a goat, so we didn't have it tested and I still have my lovely goat.

I will be separating her from the others should she show signs of infection in the future. She also had mastisis at the time in one udder and had a hard time giving birth so it may have been from an infection elsewhere in her body.
 

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Unfortunately the problem is in the long run we cannot seperate her out and quarentine her. We had hopes for our little herd and the sheer cost of building, vet and other things is totally throwing them aside. Cissy can live out a happy life and have a great time but she can't live it out here.

Unfortunately the big one is her second cyst, and now I've noticed her third.. these have all come up in the last 30 days! One after another. She wanted to do the test because of some strange results she's been getting and I'm fine with that, but we cannot deal with this at this time. I'm trying to do my best, but I'm having to use a very small dog run as isolation that is ordinarily used by well my dog. That is not a life for a goat, being hauled up in a dog run that is maybe 5x10ft.
 

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I can understand perfectly that you can't keep a CL goat. Due to my alpaca birthing business and the fact that alpacas can also get CL, if a goat came up with a lump that was possibly CL, they would have to go immediately. I can't even allow CAE on the farm because I do sometimes have to use my goat milk for alpaca crias. Plus, even though people can't get CAE, you never know if/when it might mutate and people could get it. No matter if it was my favorite goat, my best milker, whatever, no one can stay if they have any of the goat diseases. Too much risk to my other animals, my farm business and myself.
 

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Yeah, thats how I feel. We have puppies once a year and the risk of something happening to them is pretty great.


Cissy is coughing now, =/ , mum is talking about euthanasia at the moment with the vet on the telephone. Coughing is not a very good sign.

The vet is perplexed by it. She said she's hoping to get Prelim results in a few days and if she is CL positive she will do what we want (re: euthanasia). If she isn't CL positive, she may still be rehomed..
 

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If it is CL, she could have internal abscesses too. Unfortunately, you wouldn't know that for sure unless you did a necropsy.
 
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