Cissy is positive for CL, vet is trying to convince not to euthanize.

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Yeah and a necropsy is probably not financially viable at this point.
 

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Heres a good thing! The good thing is, mostly for future reference, is that WADDL does take submissions from Canada! I emailed them and just got a response saying they do. Unfortunately at this stage it'll probably be just as long as the vets submissions are going to take what with getting VacuTubes in the mail, taking samples, shipping to WADDL (and this will need to hang out for inspection I expect at the border). Its nice to know in the future though that we have a lab that is a) way cheaper than our own vets and b) willing to take Canadian submissions!
 

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If you ship overnight generally customs takes less time. Not always though. And even overnight postage is still usually cheaper than a vet call.
 

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Yeah well the tests have already been sent off by the vet, she took a sample of the pus from Cissy's abscess when she lanced it Sunday morning. We'll know the results of that before I can get everything set up for WADDL. Remember, I have to order my Vacutainers because none of the stores carry them here and I'm not sure my vet would give me any since it is generally accepted here that the vet does that sorta stuff. We're ordering the vacutainers from BioTracking for future use (Biotracking doesn't take canadian submissions, its just they're the most convienient it seems for getting the tubes).
 

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At least you will have things in place for future use. It really is a shame that Cissy is having the abscess problems. I hope it comes back negative for CL and something else is going on but who knows.
 

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That was totally a "for future reference" thing not a criticism of what you are currently doing. :) Best of luck with your new herd in Spring.

I imagine other Canadian goat owners are relieved to hear they can mail in samples. I already forwarded it to a friend of mine up there that keeps goats.
 

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Well the vet called. Cissy is positive for CL and its advancing like rapid fire here. She already has 2 more abscesses starting since the last one. Mione most likely has it now as well. The real kicker is that now we cannot take them to auction since Cissy always has an open sore, we can't sell them or GIVE them away.. no one wants them and the vet is trying to convince us to keep them for the rest of their lives. We cannot. This is absolutely ridiculous. The goal was to get into goats and breed and now we're being judged by our vet for wanting to euthanize two goats with an infectious disease that we could spread to OTHER farms in our area.

She'll be back in a week from the goat breeders conference (thats a real kick in the teeth, isn't it..) and will probably try to convince us not to euthanize again. We may be looking for a new vet, and won't be getting goats again.
 

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:( :hit

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I really, really hate this.. Of all the goats in the world, I would least have suspected one of your two of being CL+, given how few goats are in the area to begin with.. And you had them for SO LONG before one popped up with a knot..

I just hate it for you.. :( :( :(
 

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I know. Its truly weird. And now they're coming up like crazy. Mione doesn't have any YET. But its very likely she will eventually. We may have to keep them, and just keep letting them burst/lancing them. Since its this bad on the surface with Cissy, its entirely possible she already had them on her organs.
 

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Well.. Mum and I talked it over and we're going to tell the vet this, since she'll give us Case-bac. We're going to vaccinate both girls with Case-Bac. I've done some reading that says its been effective in already infected goats, its worth a shot right? Then in 4 or 5 months we'll reevaluate the situation. If Cissy is still getting the abscesses like crazy and Mione is too, they'll be euthanized. If not, then we'll carry on. They'll just have to be pets and we won't keep goats is all aside from them.
 
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