Cocci Prevention / Treatment Thread

[elevan]

Well I don't know, I'm an accountant and he's the vet.... he went to veterinary school after all so if he tells me a dosage I would have to trust him, he did after all see the fecal sample.

Vets go to school to learn about treating domestic animals (dogs, cats, etc). Training in livestock is not part of the program. If they want that they have to take extra training and / or apprentice with a livestock vet.

I'm only suggesting that you ask some questions of your vet to make sure you're getting the very best care for your livestock. You could have a great domestic vet who isn't really livestock savvy but is helping you because he cares. If that's the case they are probably looking at a manual to get dosages and not experience.

 

[Hillsvale]

Well I don't know, I'm an accountant and he's the vet.... he went to veterinary school after all so if he tells me a dosage I would have to trust him, he did after all see the fecal sample.

Vets go to school to learn about treating domestic animals (dogs, cats, etc). Training in livestock is not part of the program. If they want that they have to take extra training and / or apprentice with a livestock vet.

I'm only suggesting that you ask some questions of your vet to make sure you're getting the very best care for your livestock. You could have a great domestic vet who isn't really livestock savvy but is helping you because he cares. If that's the case they are probably looking at a manual to get dosages and not experience.

Actually in my neck of the woods it is part of their training... he a large animal livestock vet, he was actually trained at the Atlantic Vet College in PEI which is renound in their large animal training and care, the largest in Eastern Canada.

This clinic prides themselves on being 'primarily' livestock. and he tends to many people with goats which is why I sourced him out and drove the distance I did for a fecal test... obviously taking livestock to a small animal vet would be ridiculous unless you had absolutely no other option.

 

[ksalvagno]

Hillsvale, with you being in BC, there is probably a different dosage with the drugs. I think if you talked to different people around the US, you would probably find different dosages and those dosages work just fine for them. Getting dosages from the internet is a great way to start but I would verify with your local goat vet or very knowledgeable breeder. Hey, if in your area, Ivomec still works at 1cc per 50 lbs, why dose at 1cc per 25 lbs!

 

[Hillsvale]

Hillsvale, with you being in BC, there is probably a different dosage with the drugs. I think if you talked to different people around the US, you would probably find different dosages and those dosages work just fine for them. Getting dosages from the internet is a great way to start but I would verify with your local goat vet or very knowledgeable breeder. Hey, if in your area, Ivomec still works at 1cc per 50 lbs, why dose at 1cc per 25 lbs!

Agreed, except I am in NS ... the opposite coast! Sort of the distance from Boston to California... was are actually only a few hours from Boston and get very similar weather.

Goats are really just beginning to get big here so I would tend to stick to the vet rather than a breeder... he seemed a pretty knowledgable guy and is in his thirties so not so far out of school that the learning and updating is still fairly "easy" for lack of better words.

 

[20kidsonhill]

We are here in virginia and not using nearly as high a dosage as what is being recommended on here. Our dosage seems to be working just fine for us. But our kids are also on medicated feed, so it is possible, it is working with that to keep things under control

 

[elevan]

Well I don't know, I'm an accountant and he's the vet.... he went to veterinary school after all so if he tells me a dosage I would have to trust him, he did after all see the fecal sample.

Vets go to school to learn about treating domestic animals (dogs, cats, etc). Training in livestock is not part of the program. If they want that they have to take extra training and / or apprentice with a livestock vet.

I'm only suggesting that you ask some questions of your vet to make sure you're getting the very best care for your livestock. You could have a great domestic vet who isn't really livestock savvy but is helping you because he cares. If that's the case they are probably looking at a manual to get dosages and not experience.

Actually in my neck of the woods it is part of their training... he a large animal livestock vet, he was actually trained at the Atlantic Vet College in PEI which is renound in their large animal training and care, the largest in Eastern Canada.

This clinic prides themselves on being 'primarily' livestock. and he tends to many people with goats which is why I sourced him out and drove the distance I did for a fecal test... obviously taking livestock to a small animal vet would be ridiculous unless you had absolutely no other option.

I meant no insult and hope you didn't take as such. I just know that there are some on this forum that are using a domestic vet to get medicines and dosages because they don't have a livestock vet acquainted with goats.

Since goats are fairly new to your area I'd say you probably don't have a resistance issue and how lucky are you that you don't have to use quite so much medicine to get the job done And lucky that your vets training includes large animal livestock.

 

[ksalvagno]

Agreed, except I am in NS ... the opposite coast! Sort of the distance from Boston to California... was are actually only a few hours from Boston and get very similar weather.

Goats are really just beginning to get big here so I would tend to stick to the vet rather than a breeder... he seemed a pretty knowledgable guy and is in his thirties so not so far out of school that the learning and updating is still fairly "easy" for lack of better words.

sorry about that. For some reason I saw BC instead of NS. I will blame it on being tired from working yesterday. On Mondays I start work at 4am and usually work a 12 hour day. Needless to say, I'm still pretty tired on Tuesday.

 

[Hillsvale]

Agreed, except I am in NS ... the opposite coast! Sort of the distance from Boston to California... was are actually only a few hours from Boston and get very similar weather.

Goats are really just beginning to get big here so I would tend to stick to the vet rather than a breeder... he seemed a pretty knowledgable guy and is in his thirties so not so far out of school that the learning and updating is still fairly "easy" for lack of better words.

sorry about that. For some reason I saw BC instead of NS. I will blame it on being tired from working yesterday. On Mondays I start work at 4am and usually work a 12 hour day. Needless to say, I'm still pretty tired on Tuesday.

Awww it was funny!

 

[Goatmasta]

Hillsvale, with you being in BC, there is probably a different dosage with the drugs. I think if you talked to different people around the US, you would probably find different dosages and those dosages work just fine for them. Getting dosages from the internet is a great way to start but I would verify with your local goat vet or very knowledgeable breeder. Hey, if in your area, Ivomec still works at 1cc per 50 lbs, why dose at 1cc per 25 lbs!

The reason you wouldn't dose @ 1cc/50lbs is resistance. That is why safe guard is no longer effective.

 

[elevan]

Hillsvale, with you being in BC, there is probably a different dosage with the drugs. I think if you talked to different people around the US, you would probably find different dosages and those dosages work just fine for them. Getting dosages from the internet is a great way to start but I would verify with your local goat vet or very knowledgeable breeder. Hey, if in your area, Ivomec still works at 1cc per 50 lbs, why dose at 1cc per 25 lbs!

The reason you wouldn't dose @ 1cc/50lbs is resistance. That is why safe guard is no longer effective.

I want clarification for this thread...
Goatmasta - are you saying that you too believe that Hillsvale's vet recommended too low of a dose?...