Cocci Prevention / Treatment Thread

[poorboys]

I have a girlfriend that has nothing but boers, and they always go untouch. she worms with pellets, and puts stuff in their water. and she looses kids. I have nubies and boers and everyone here gets one on one treatment, if I had a more than 50 if would be out of the question, but if they are all running togather they should be treated and preventive togather, just my thoughts on coccidia, boers get it too.

 

[elevan]

Does anyone have experience with this drug for cocci treatment?

Brand Name: Marquis

Emily, I've seen the name pop up here and there...never heard of anyone actually using it, just trying to get info on it.

I saw it pop up on another board and thought I'd ask about it here...not sure what to think of it myself as the person talking about it was also filling their goat full of pepto

 

[ksalvagno]

Marquis is the top of the line drug. Alpaca breeders use it when their alpacas have Emac which is a type of coccidia. In alpacas, Emac is a killer. Marquis is very expensive. I would use it as a last resort drug. Does great for taking care of Emac though.

 

[Caprice_Acres]

Sulfamethoxine (sulmet) is known to not work in many areas.

Sulfadimethoxine (albon, dimethox) are very effective at killing ALL stages of cocci. Can be used as a prevention/treatment. Initial treatment is done at 3 weeks old, I personally do a treatment round (1cc per 5lbs for 5 days) at their first prevention at 3 weeks of age. I give it right in the milk for the bottle dairy kids. Until they are 50lbs, I give dimethox every 3 weeks, day one gets 1cc per 5lbs, days 2-5 get 1cc per 10lbs.

Corid is NOT a treatment for cocci. The thiamine inhibition only stops the young cocci from maturing to the damaging stages of life. If your goat has a heavy load and is suffering from cocci related illness (anemia, stunting etc) do NOT treat with corid! You need to KILL the adult cocci which are damaging the kid's intestines NOW. Use sulfadimethoxine. However, as a PREVENTION it works well for many people. Treat at 3 weeks with dimethox, then use corid after that, every 3 weeks until 'well grown'.


Feed through cocci prevention is what I'll be trying next year with my dam raised kids. I attempted ONCE to do cocci prevention using dimethox on my dam raised. I only had 5 dam raised kids this year, too - but catching them and handling them was an absolute nightmare - most dimethox got wasted. I finally figured I'd just watch for symptoms this year and treat as needed, so far kids are growing like weeds!

Boer or other meat herds SWEAR by feed through cocci preventions, but dairy folks seem to think that goats don't eat enough of the medicatd feed to do any good. I think I'm going to mix it at a rate that only a small amount of feed needs to be consumed to get the proper doseage. I'll probably do an initial cocci treatment on all of them at 3 weeks old still.

Here's where I learned more about the feed throughs : http://www.barnonemeatgoats.com/worms.html

 

[redtailgal]

So, what is everones drug of choice? (ok wow, that was poorly worded, lol)

And how many of you DONT do preventative?

Do you do preventative on kids only, under 1 years old only, on the whole herd?

 

[Roll farms]

I use Di Methox. I buy the powder ($11.55 from Jeffer's Supply) and mix my own. I treat mine until they're 7 or 8 mos. old. I've also used SMZ-TMP a time or two when I ran out of DiMethox.

For me, it's easier to just treat all the kids every 21 days. I hit them first thing in the morning before bottles, so the meds hit an 'empty' stomach, then I go feed the adults, milk, and come back n give the kids their bottles....which means the drugs are working for 30-45 minutes before they get fed.

I truly wish you could just look at the kids and say, "OK, this one will get coccidiosis, this one won't, this one will fight it off ok, this one will have a subclinical case that will damage her but not give her scours." but you can't.

Having fecals every 14-21 days would be....exhausting / aggravating / expensive. Even if I did my own...who's to say if I did the fecal today then they wouldn't get a bloom in 10 days (before the next fecal) and get sick?

I lost 4 out of 9 kids our first year of 'serious' goat farming. The next year I tried preventing w/ feed alone (on my vet's advice) and we had 2 get severely stunted before I figured out that it wasn't working.
I started the DiMethox prevention the 3rd year and we haven't lost a kid since. It may not be the 'best' practice, but it's the one that works best for us at this time.

 

[redtailgal]

Thanks, Rolls. That makes sense.

Anyone else wanna chime in with their method?

 

[elevan]

I use Albon suspension. I give preventative treatments 3 times starting at 3 weeks of age. Beyond that I'll treat based on how wet the weather is and any symptoms shown.

Albon suspension is probably one of the more expensive ways to go, but I have smaller goats so use less of it. The goats like the taste of it and therefore I don't get it spit back at me like with some meds.

 

[Mamaboid]

We are using Di-Methox liquid, 5 day treatments @ first day 1cc per 5 lbs. and the next 4 days 1cc per 10#. Am in the middle of 2nd round, and have not decided how many rounds I will do. I may stop after this one unless it gets wet again like it did last fall. Will do at least 2 rounds on new kids due May 17.

 

[redtailgal]

So none of you do preventative on your adults? What about medicated feed for the adults?