Devonviolet Acres

[Devonviolet]

at the same time that the buck does the thrust you will notice the doe arch her back and tuck her butt down.

Well, now that you mention it, I was so busy watching RJ, I didn't notice what Falina was doing. She was shaking her tail before hand, though.

She will need a smoke too.

The Marlboro's are a bit too manly for my delicate Falina. So, I'll get Her a pack of Virginia Slims.

Actually, I presently buy the big bags of shredded mozzarella and cheddar and I share both with Mel

Well, when I said you wouldn't give Mel the goat milk mozzarella, I was kinda hoping, that you wouldn't give it to him, since it is a bit more special than the shredded stuff that comes in three pound bags, that's all.

 

[Baymule]

Give RJ some eggnog!! After all, he has been working hard and needs a drink to go with that smoke!

 

[Devonviolet]

RJ really IS a good looking goat and a sweetie! I spent some time with him this morning. He wasn't too sure about me at first, but then relaxed & seemed to enjoy the stitches on his back & neck. I even got a few licks.

His scurs reminds me...our pretty little Angelica is also developing scurs. We disbudded her twice, when she was small. After the 2nd time, she developed horn buds - AGAIN!!! they seemed to stop growing after a month or so - at about 1".

Then about 3 weeks ago, the right one fell off & the left one was loose. The other day I thought I felt something on the right, as she went by me. So, I grabbed her collar, to get a better feel. The left 1" horn bud is no longer loose, and seems maybe 1/4" bigger. The right side has a "C" shaped scur forming. It is about 1/2" at this point.

I am so upset! @goatgurl said I could use a cutting wire, but I need to get right at the scull, when I make the cut. Poor Angelica was so traumatized after the 2nd burning, she wouldn't come to me for more than a month. Even now, sometimes she is tentative.

 

[Southern by choice]

You need to be careful using the gigli wire. If too far down you do risk severe blood loss and or open sinus cavity.
If they cause no issues leave them alone

Remember Jane? She almost bled to death.
We just went through a scur break with our new buck- he did have to get sedated and when the scur that was ripped was removed he bled and bled and bled. Thankfully he was under sedation because it took a lot of work to stop the bleeding.
We have to do Will's scur but we just take off where it curves if we go lower we hit the vessel and we don't need bleed out.

 

[Devonviolet]

Thanks Southern. I remember when you had the Vet do (I think it was Jane) because she was sharpening the tip to use it as a weapon. It wasn't an easy go, of it, or fun.

I look at RJ, who is such a pretty goat. And the scurs just Mar his good looks. Angelica is such a pretty, dainty goat. I would hate to have scurs mess up her looks.

 

[Goat Whisperer]

Thanks Southern. I remember when you had the Vet do (I think it was Jane) because she was sharpening the tip to use it as a weapon. It wasn't an easy go, of it, or fun.

I look at RJ, who is such a pretty goat. And the scurs just Mar his good looks. Angelica is such a pretty, dainty goat. I would hate to have scurs mess up her looks.

I believe this is the thread SBC was referring to.
https://www.backyardherds.com/threads/warning-graphic-unnatural-scur-breaks-off.34295/#post-441659

Hoping you get some pretty kids I love Lamancha kids, they have the best personality!

 

[Southern by choice]

That was Millie- she had actual horns. The breeder had rotator cuff surgery and couldn't disbud.
Jane is our doe born 2016.

Get a pic of it if you can.

 

[Devonviolet]

That was Millie- she had actual horns. The breeder had rotator cuff surgery and couldn't disbud.
Jane is our doe born 2016.

Get a pic of it if you can.

That's right - Millie. Jane didn't sound quite right, but you had just mentioned her.

Okay, I will have to wait, to take pics, though. The right one just started to form. I can feel it, But because she is chocolate & her horns are black, you can't really see it yet.

I believe this is the thread SBC was referring to.
https://www.backyardherds.com/threads/warning-graphic-unnatural-scur-breaks-off.34295/#post-441659

Thanks GW. We just got back from buying feed. I have to go out & help unload. I will check out SBC's post on scurs later.

 

[Southern by choice]

I hate scurs too.
Does don't usually get scurs unless the disbudding just was "off"... and that can mean too soon... too late... not burned long enough... wrong size tip...

Bucks have a 50/50 shot of having scurs regardless of who disbuds. Doesn't matter how experienced... it is just one of those things.

Scurs can be quite different too.
Some really are horns that end up blunted nut they are huge at base and basically a horn... scurs tend to vary in wiggliness - yep- new word- wiggliness. Add that to you goat vocab

The ones that are solid like a horn I would leave.
The wiggly ones do tend to break and bleed but depends if they really are more surface or not.

 

[Devonviolet]

Well, for now I think I am just going to leave the scurs alone. I don't want to hurt her, make her bleed out, or have an open sinus. If it gets big & ugly, I might ask my Vet about doing it. But he leaves horns on his Spanish/Boer meat goats. So, he may not have a lot of experience with horns.

Does don't usually get scurs unless the disbudding just was "off"... and that can mean too soon... too late... not burned long enough... wrong size tip...

How soon is too soon? I think I was told 1 week was a good time.

Since this was our first crop of kids, I don't have a lot of experience with Disbudding. I watched some YouTube videos & saw it done once, in person. I had read, that if you go too long, you can cause brain damage.

For that reason I may have rushed through it. 5 second (1-1000, 2-1000, etc) may have run together (1-2-3-4-5) and been more like three seconds. I did burn twice, with a cool down between burns. On the boys, I burned a second, offset (figure-8) burn, with a cool down & second burn. Should I have done that on Angelica?