doe kid gone limp-mother not producing much-pls HELP

[SevernSunset]

Thank you so much Elevan.

The amounts for each item in the one I have per tablet are all 100 mg, except the b12 which is 100mcg.

Maybe I'm wrong and b complex is water soluble- it does make urine glow in the dark yellow...

How many ml would you inject a nb kid with? I'll dissolve this tab in water and use as much as I need to do make the dose about that.


I went ahead and have now gotten a total of about 6-7 oz of electrolyte into her. She's still limp, seems to be sleeping, but I'm not sure. If you make goat noises at her she twitches her ears-has no control of her head ect. though.

I should just let the fluid absorb from her gut for a few hours until trying to give her anything else?

 

[ksalvagno]

If you are dissolving pills to give to the kid, then you would give it orally. If you have gotten 6-7 ounces into her, then I would wait a few hours before giving her anything more.

 

[elevan]

Yup. Give it orally. If the goat is less than 25# I would just crush 1/2 of a tablet of what you have and dissolve in some water or add to some yogurt and give it.

 

[SevernSunset]

thanks Ksalvagno.

I did get 6oz of electrolyte into her around 6:30. Its 11 pm now, I've got 2 oz of milk from her dam, and I'm going to give her that plus 4 oz pastuerized goats milk. She passed some urine, and stool both- however she's still totally limp. I haven't seen that before in an animal- IME once they get enough fluid in them to pass urine they start to perk up- but this is my first goat experience.

I do intend to give the B vit. orally, what I wondered was how much of the injectable is given at a time- I don't want to tax her liver as one of these pills contains 8X what 1 ml of the injectable Elevan described has- I'd rather it worked out as a comparable amt. esp since there are a lot of B complex in the electrolyte I'm using. So I still haven't given any of the tablet to her.

Her temp is normal at 102.81 now.

The other kid with the dam seems to be fine.

 

[Roll farms]

I wouldn't worry about giving the entire b tab. It's more poorly absorbed orally vs. injection.

(I've given kids 2 of my b vits in their bottles before.)

 

[elevan]

I do intend to give the B vit. orally, what I wondered was how much of the injectable is given at a time- I don't want to tax her liver as one of these pills contains 8X what 1 ml of the injectable Elevan described has- I'd rather it worked out as a comparable amt. esp since there are a lot of B complex in the electrolyte I'm using. So I still haven't given any of the tablet to her.

The livestock injectible is given at 1.25 ml / 25# SQ

I wouldn't worry about giving the entire b tab. It's more poorly absorbed orally vs. injection.

(I've given kids 2 of my b vits in their bottles before.)

x2

Next time you're in a store look at a bottle of 5 Hour Energy and you'll see just how much B vitamins are in there and how extreme the dosage of them is. Don't worry about it. The body (both humans and goats) flushes excess B vitamins out...which is why it turns the urine day glow yellow.

 

[SevernSunset]

Thank you so much for taking the time to reply to me so late at night.

I'll get the vit B into her and then hit the hay...

Thanks again

Heather=^..^=

 

[SevernSunset]

She made it through the night!

I wasn't sure she would . She's still mostly sleeping/unconscious today, but she wakes every now and then, and moves her head around a bit, looks around and then goes back to sleep.

Still not able to suck, but is moving her tongue on the syringe when I feed her.

Her condition seems to be stable at any rate.

So I guess I'll just keep going like this, and hope she pulls through.

Thank you immensely for all your help everyone I'll pop back on if we have any more questions, or to update that all is well!

Heather=^..^=

 

[20kidsonhill]

I have been very busy, but for those of you who have been helping out on this thread..... Have you consider pneumonia and a need for antibiotics?

 

[elevan]

I have been very busy, but for those of you who have been helping out on this thread..... Have you consider pneumonia and a need for antibiotics?

Temp was initially high but then normalized fairly quickly...but that doesn't always mean that there is not cause for antibiotics. They certainly wouldn't hurt in this case to be a little proactive. Personally I would probably start on some PenG as a broad antibiotic as a preventative. 1 ml / 15# for 7 days.