doe kid gone limp-mother not producing much-pls HELP

[redtailgal]

I think 20kids is spot on about taking the kid off milk for 24 hours, esp if the kid is sick. It sounds to me like this little one really needs to rest her digestive tract, and get some antibiotics in her quickly. it's very similiar to the regimen we follow for calves. Stress + milk +being sedentary= poor digestion which leads to bloat in any critter.

She would get fluids from the treatments, and from the elctrolytes you would be giving her.

I'm not sure about using Propen for goats.........20kids? what do you think?

 

[20kidsonhill]

I think 20kids is spot on about taking the kid off milk for 24 hours, esp if the kid is sick. It sounds to me like this little one really needs to rest her digestive tract, and get some antibiotics in her quickly. it's very similiar to the regimen we follow for calves. Stress + milk +being sedentary= poor digestion which leads to bloat in any critter.

She would get fluids from the treatments, and from the elctrolytes you would be giving her.

I'm not sure about using Propen for goats.........20kids? what do you think?

I have a bottle of it, bought it by accident and I have used it, Not positive if it works the same as Procain G. But if it is all I could find, that is what I would use.

I have heard of someone mixing it with B complex to slow down the absorption of the thiamin. So I know you can use it on goats.

 

[ksalvagno]

Is that Propen LA a long acting Penicillin? If it is, then that is fine to use. Just have to use it once a day instead of twice a day.

 

[20kidsonhill]

Is that Propen LA a long acting Penicillin? If it is, then that is fine to use. Just have to use it once a day instead of twice a day.

Yes, that is what the OP is referring to.

 

[SevernSunset]

Yep for sure, its propen LA.

So I can treat her simultaneously for fks and pneumonia then? Beacause I'm having a really hard time determining which one it is, based on the fact that she is not bloated/constipated, feverish, cold, runny nosed, and she has a very slight wheeze on exhaling, though that could be from laying still for so many days.

So If I follow correctly....this is what I'll do-

1.stop giving her milk right now.
2. give her the same quantity of electrolyte in place of milk.
3.start her on the propen LA as soon as I can aquire it (Tues afternoon)
4.administer baking soda orally 24 hrs after her last feed of milk.


Again, thank you so much everyone for all of your advice and support. I am really impressed at this community, and so glad that I found it. ((hugs))

 

[SevernSunset]

Now the twin doe kid in the barn is going wobbly on her front legs

My husband should be home any minute with the propen LA, which we will give the weak kid in the house right away, and start her on the baking soda now as well.

Her breathing became very laboured and raspy during the night- so I'm really thinking pneumonia...

I'm not sure what to think of the kid in the barn? I'll start with her temp. She doesn't feel as solid/thick as she did yesterday. Is it common for FKS to occur in both twin kids?

 

[20kidsonhill]

Sorry, I haven't gotten back with you. My computer was hit with lightening, and had to have some repairs done to it. Luckly, we have a great computer person who lives just down the road and clearly knows a lot about computers.

I personally don't have a lot of experience with FKS, But the first thing I do if a kid is off feed, or acting weak is give them baking soda and start them on Penn G.

crossing my fingers that they start improving.

 

[SevernSunset]

We gave her (the twin, once robust) penicillan (propen LA) last night and she's still gotten weaker, so we are now separating her from her dam to get her off milk for 24 hrs before baking soda.

Do you keep them off milk 20kids for 24 hrs before baking soda?

The first kid has regained consciousness, and some strength-she's starting to drink from a bottle, not too well, but she's motivated Not sure when we should put her back on milk?

I'm nervous too because we can't get CDT anti-toxin here, only the bacterin (vaccine). Not sure why but nobody stocks it. (sad as I saw about 30 or 40 lambs die last year as a result on the farm where I was working, and the anti-toxin could have saved them; I got to haul them away in the wheel barrow every am.)

I feel like I won't be able to go into my own labour until these kids are strong enough....

 

[ksalvagno]

No, you don't have to wait 24 hours to give the baking soda. I would go ahead and give it now.

 

[20kidsonhill]

I don't wait 24 hours. I give them baking soda and Penn G as soon as I realize they are having problems.