Doe went off feed and milk production down by 1/3....possible UTI?

[elevan]

Just because she's on an antibiotic doesn't mean that she cannot get an infection. There are so many different types of antibiotics because different strains of bacteria are sensitive to different antibiotics. The Nuflor may not be enough...in the antibiotic department...

 

[BlackSheepOrganics]

We're giving her SQ fluids every 2 hrs again. Gave her a shot of Pen-G just in case. Continuing the Fortified B Complex shots. Gave her some Dextrose and Nutri-Drench. Massaging her rumen every hour and getting the gas out. Her temp continues to slowly go down. She is now at 99.7 despite the heat lamp and blankets. I know this cannot be good.

She is holding her head up now and she wasn't earlier, but that is the ONLY improvement I can see. The dropping temp says it is not enough.

 

[BlackSheepOrganics]

She willingly took 30cc CMPK. This is the first time in some time now that she has taken something without a tube.

Her temp is at 100.2. I'm not going to get too excited till I see it continue to rise significantly.

 

[Roll farms]

 

[SDGsoap&dairy]

My vet always give pen g in addition to dex. In the same shot in fact. Dex will lower the immune system. I've never used Nuflor, so I don't know about contraindications but I'd be seriously tempted to ask your vet if it's okay to start giving pen/dex in addition to the Nuflor if you continue on the dex. Roll may be right about switching to another anti-inflammatory like Banamine though and giving her immune system a chance to work.

I am so sorry you're going through this!

ETA: I see you did give her the Pen G. If it were me I'd continue as long as she's getting dex.

 

[BlackSheepOrganics]

We discontinued the dex and switched to baby aspirin (Bayer) last night. I figure at this point, there's nothing to lose.

She's at 100.6

No other real signs of improvement.

 

[Emmetts Dairy]

Im sorry to hear shes not doing well I would recomend with all the medications she is getting to continue with baking soda and probiotics. The anitbiotics will strip the rumen of good bacteria too. And its crucial to keep that rumen in check to keep it going.

I have heard that some antibiotics will null eachother out. But I dont know specifics on that. It was something I heard. Like in 3 days somethings not working move on to something stronger etc..or more direct to the bacteria. But dont switch off and on??

As for the green milk??? Boy O Boy...I never saw that?? Matitis usually will show by tinting the milk redish/brown. I just dont know?

But I see the calcium got her temp up???? So I would continue with whats working. And dont forget the probois and baking soda. And vitamin B!! Important.

I wish I had more...this is tough!! Im really really sorry!!

 

[BlackSheepOrganics]

Yeah, I am not real antibiotic wise but the vet is going to help me figure that one out. She was on Nuflor for 5 days, but as of last night we gave her Pen G.

She's has been getting probios every day (10 units), Fortified Vitamin B Complex shots 2x daily, and we're massaging her rumen and getting the gas out hourly.

We mixed dextrose and the calcium gluconate in the bag of fluids we've been injecting her with SQ. I found directions for doing such and went with it. Shortly after that, she started holding up her head more, but that is about all the signs of improvement. She is peeing a lot, poor thing, but at least it means she has some hydration going on.

We're going to hook her up to an IV and start a drip. I don't know what else to do but I refuse to have her go down without fighting this to the end. We're all exhausted after a night of no sleep. In fact I think she might be more alert than we are at this point. As a mother of 8, I can honestly say having small children was less exhausting than goats but I LOVE our goats and they sass somewhat less most of the time!

 

[Emmetts Dairy]

I wish you the best with her!!! I totally agree with you on the fight!! I completely understand!!! I would do the same.

Kids are easier!! LOL At least they can say "my belly hurts" etc...so you dont have to go thru guessing games!! Or decisions trees like a crazy person.

Keep the faith!!! Im pulling for you!!

I would try to prop her up with blankets behind her..and try to keep her sitting up. That is the best position for her for sure. If you are not already doing that????

Hoping for a good turn around for you today!!!

 

[Roll farms]

Pen G and Tetracycine are the 2 that cancel eachother out...so I wouldn't switch off of the Pen G now, but if the vet recommends it, don't switch to any Tetracyclines.

Also, milk consumption interferes w/ Tetracycline absorption....so (just thinking out loud here) I could see all the calcium supplementation she's getting interfering possibly w/ Tetracycline, too...maybe?

Another thing I'm wondering...is there such a thing as a calcium overdose?
I've never dealt w/ a severe case of hypocalcemia, so I'm just asking / throwing it out there...but from what I've heard / read, generally a few doses will drastically improve their condition...? It just seems like if that was the problem, it would have helped by now. Sooo....Maybe it's too much?

(Again, just asking, because I honestly don't know....)

Another thing, I've always read that it's a condition of heavy milking / producing does...Did I read she produced 3 c a day? Again, I'm not trying to be problematic or throw another confusing thing in the already confusing mix...but what if Hypocalcemia wasn't ever the problem, and treating for it is now making her worse?

You might ask / talk to the vet and get his opinion on it.....Maybe try just glucose in the drip.

Wondering if the green milk is not a reaction to all the things she's getting pumped into her....b vit will make pee orange....