Doe went off feed and milk production down by 1/3....possible UTI?

[Emmetts Dairy]

But Frothy Bloat needs something to break up the froth....the vet may have a medication. I know there is a remedy for it...but I cant think of it...Im sorry...

I hope the vet gets there soon for you guys...

 

[Emmetts Dairy]

Milk of Magnesia will help break up the froth in the rumen...but I know the vets have medicine that will break up that froth.

 

[helmstead]

Calcium drench is NASTY! It burns them going down, and gosh if they aspirate it, who KNOWS what could happen.

Also, I just use vegetable oil to break up frothy bloat. Luckily to date I've only dealt with one frothy buck, but the oil worked right away.

Keep us posted.

 

[BlackSheepOrganics]

Vet came and went and we're none the wiser. She is a wonderful person but is not a goat vet nor does she claim to be one but she is one of the few near us (an hour and 15 mins away) that will work with us to figure things out.

She said the doe has a lot of liquid in the lungs now. She was absolutely clear before the reaction. She thinks she got it down in her lungs during the reaction. She gave her a steroid and some banemine. She didn't feel the bloat was bad enough yet to address despite my thoughts on the matter.

She said she was not breathing well enough to get enough oxygen and needed to be left alone and not stressed any further.

Oh, and if that wasn't all bad enough, in the past 2 hours, her temp has dropped to 99.7. It had been just fine (102 something) all day.

For those who know how to treat bloat, I could use some really specific instruction, please? I'm angry we got so little help and will no doubt have a bill over 200 for this, but even more so that it is looking like a death sentence. I'm not trying to be melodramatic. I'm angry and scared for her so I'm a bit emotional. Sorry.

 

[BlackSheepOrganics]

Helmstead, how much veggie oil and how often?

This is going to be one long night.

My vet's advice? "Go to bed and leave her be. I don't think she's going to make it."

 

[helmstead]

Start her on antibiotics ASAP to avoid aspiration pneumonia. I give wee babies 3 cc of oil, so an adult goat I would do probably 15 ccs or so. Baking soda for acidosis, and C&D antitoxin for entero. You can do the oil and baking soda often...the oil acts as a surfactant.

Pound on her ribs to help her expel/cough up the drench she aspirated. If you can keep her up and walking, much like a colicy horse.

I'm so sorry! I hope she pulls through.

 

[Emmetts Dairy]

Do you have milk of magnesia by chance????? Also Tide (powered) laundry detergent 3cc powder to 30cc water mix well.

Vegetable oil (6-8 oz for an adult) or, mix baking soda with water and use as a drench.

I would try vegtable oil / milk of mag 1st...but you dont wanna just layer..more stuff on the foam...you want something thats gonna dispers it.

Im sorry your having a hard time with her. I was hoping the vet would have a clue???

 

[BlackSheepOrganics]

I'm so sorry to keep pestering but truly appreciate the help!

She was given Nuflor this morning so that is in her system already.

I gave her the C&D a while ago when we first saw the bloated look creeping in, despite the fact that vet felt it wasn't going to help. She didn't think it could hurt so I did it anyway.

Can I just mix the veggie oil and baking soda or should there be some water in there too?

She's had free choice baking soda all day but has not touched it.

This is not a people goat. We just got her a few months ago and she is not people friendly. She is very stressed and the vet thought leaving her be would help her breathe better as her lungs are really full right now. Do you think keeping her up and going so she can cough the stuff up would outweigh her panic/stress? She's worn out acting and blank in the eyes.

 

[BlackSheepOrganics]

which is better? The Milk of Mag or the veggie oil and baking soda?

Hubby is ready to go get M. of M. if needed.

 

[Emmetts Dairy]

My vet's advice? "Go to bed and leave her be. I don't think she's going to make it."

Thats terrible!!! Im sorry she was no help.

I really hope she pulls thru for you!!