Doe went off feed and milk production down by 1/3....possible UTI?

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This is the first thing I looked at when I opened my laptop this morning!! So happy to hear her temp is up!!!

I am anixously awaiting an update as well this morning!!! Im so happy to hear she was bouncing back!!! Good job!!!

Im sure you are beat from a long night! :th
 

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New Goat Momma said:
Her temp is climbing! It had dropped to 99.7. We are now at 101.

I've never been so excited to hear a goat belch and pass gas. :)

Her tummy is just about back to normal. Not quite but almost.

We're continuing the subQ shots of Calcium Gluconate but no more Calcium Drench.

She seems to be getting some spunk back. It's a bit quicker than I would have expected but I'm not complaining.
Do you have two accounts?? Or did someone post this for you??? I just noticed the name???
 

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I believe it's her daughter....

Glad to hear she is on the mend...hoping the trend continues.
 

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I just experienced bloat for the first time a couple days ago and wanted to add, a gentle pat is probably not going to do it. Even with Bloat Release and walking laps I had to massage the rumen VIGOROUSLY to get the gas to start expelling. I really hope your girl is doing better this morning. :fl
 

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Sounds like things are looking up! I hope she's ok this morning.

It's late, but one thing I wanted to add is dish soap also helps with frothy bloat. Also, you can put something in their mouth to act like a bit in a horse's mouth (like a thick dowel rod or something similar). Tie it in there so the goat has to work on it (bite on it, chew it, move it, try to get it out) which causes them to salivate more, which helps buffer the rumen. It also helps them belch more. I got that tip from an old vet.

Hope she's ok!! :hugs
 

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Good Morning!

Temp is at 103.2.

Her stomach is back to normal size. No bloat that I can tell.

She's acting relatively normal for an ornery goat.

I have not given her back her food yet. I'm half scared to let her eat again! I think we may try and see if she's hungry, here in a little while.

We walked her every hour last night and patted her every hour, but this meant we were bothering her every half hour. She's a tired goat today. We're tired humans today!

We gave her the SubQ shots of Calcium Gluconate every 4 hours.

Thank you to everyone for your help. We could not have gotten this far without you. In fact, I think she would be dead without you, to be real blunt.

And yes, my apologies. NewGoatMomma is my daughter. She was here helping last night so we could trade off and I posted using her laptop as it was down in the basement with us. I should have realized it would have me down under her name and said something. My bad.
 

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YIPPIE!!!! :weee Im so glad she made it thru the night and her temp is up!!! Great News!!!!

I would start to feed her now with hay this morning and give her water..But make sure you get a probiotic in her soon...cuz you need that flora to begin to build again in the rumen. And the antibiotic will also kill the flora in the rumen so probiotics and hay and water!!! I would also give her a vitamin B shot this morning!!

Im soooo happy for you!!! Great JOB!!! Good work!! Exhausting but you saved her. If you would of taken that vets advice..you'd probally be crying you eyes out telling us a totally differant senario!!! You went with your gut and saved her life!!!!!!

Im happy happy happy for you guys!!! :celebrate
 

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I am glad it is going better. I also found the thread very educational, since I have never used the oral calcium and unless it is the only thing available in a couple hundred milkes I am not planning on trying to use it after your experience with it. We had been very happy with the sub-Q calcium.

I would give her some more baking soda after you try to feed her. And keep up the probiotics.
 

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So, pretty much, she wasn't feeling good on account -- most likely, based on treatment/result -- of hypocalcemia, and since she wasn't feeling good she wasn't wanting to eat or drink, and got dehydrated...then weak...then better with calcium, but aspirated some calcium drench, and then bloated, and couldn't breathe well because of the aspiration and bloat, and then her temp dropped below that magic 100* danger line........and now she's back up and being a goat!?

Wow...what a story! Do you even realize how many often-fatal things she just endured?

Milk fever - often deadly.
Dehydration - often deadly.
Aspiration - often deadly.
Bloat - often deadly.
Subnormal temperature - often deadly.

You did really, really well bringing her through all that. And *she* did really well, too!

What I'd suggest is to keep her on antibiotics for those lungs for the next several days, and possibly a shot of banamine here and there.. Reason being, if she aspirated the calcium drench, it *will* irritate her lungs, which causes inflammation, which will cause her to cough and irritate things further, and with all that going on she's liable to pop up with pneumonia.. Would seem to me to be kind of an opportunistic threat right now, so -- if I were you -- I'd want to take precautionary measures against it..

But again, I just have to say...OUTSTANDING JOB so far! :thumbsup
 

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BlackSheepOrganics said:
Has anyone else had the same type of problem with the calcium drench? I won't be using it anymore. Gimme my CMPK and Calcium Gluconate.
I'm thinking the bloat was caused more by the hypocalcemia than the drench. Hypocalcemia affects muscle function, so it's pretty common for the rumen activity to be altered.

ETA: Preg. toxemia can also affect rumen activity, so not sure if it was that or milk fever ( I skimmed over the thread, sorry).
 

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