emergancy....nursing momma goat falling leaning to the right

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Just a bit that I seen but better then nothing. I just remembered she was the only one we tried to let eat some weeds a few days ago but I also got new hay but so far all other goats are ok. Hard to say what caused this....but think it was the listeriosis....how terrible what it does to them :(
 

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I only did the 3 vit b shots and stopped...I asked if I should continue those no reply. I woke up today and she was walking funny again so I started them again and she seems better. I also gave her some corn syrup, molassas, and oil and she hates it not sure which made her feel better. She may have just been walking funny cause she is weak. She did eat a few handfuls of hay today. I separated her and her kid today....kid does not want to drink from a bottle. How do I wean the kid. Should I let the kid eat in pm and am and keep apart between those times?

I also gave momma some pro bias and nutri drench today and she did not like it too well either.
 

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You can actually repeat the Vitamin B shots daily if needed since it's a water soluble vitamin that the body needs to "restock" daily. But...if you have to continue it for very long then you should know that you're likely just masking some other problem and really need to get to the heart of the matter as the vitamin B would just be a crutch.
 

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After rereading that site I understood to give the vit b complex every 6 hours and dont stop till all symptoms have gone away for 24 hours for the goat polio and same with the pen g for the lictorosis. The cal-mag the vet said do 50 ml first day and then 25 ml the next 2 days.

She sure don't like being made to drink stuff nor the shots.

I have momma penned up separate from eveyone including her kid. The kid does not want to drink from the bottle....I have replacer in it.

How do I wean her kid off of her? Should I let the kid drink am and pm for like 1 hour and keep separate in-between that time?
 

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Wow, you have done a great job!!!!.

These critters can be so trying on our patience and our nerves. Goats that can barely stand can run and hide when they see you coming, and drenching them can be a fight of wills to be sure.

I hope she continues to improve. I buy hay every week and sometimes from different places and I always worry that I might get a bad batch. So far so good, but in the winter it can get wet just getting hauled to and from the hay yard, before I even get it. I worry about mold, and I sniff and stare at a lot of hay. I am a worry wart.

And just an FYI, if you can get thiamine instead of the B complex you won't have to give her massive doses. I have a doeling that we suspect has a thiamine defiency and it is the vit B1 in thiamine that they really need. The other B vitamains may help the appetite, but for what you are dealing with it is the B1 that they need. A good friend of mine that is a super "goat person" said that I would have to give my doeling something like 60cc of B complex in order for her to get the thiamine in the amounts she needs. And this is only for a 4 week kid. Thiamine is a prescription drug however.

Maybe you are using thiamine, I don't remember what I read.

Good luck, and I hope for good results. You certainly have done your best.
 

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20kidsonhill said:
If you aren't using a drenching syringe, it will help a lot with the liquid stuff.

http://www.jefferslivestock.com/feeding-syringes/camid/LIV/cp/0026479/
Yes I am but she still rears like and keeps whipping her head around etc.

She has been eating more hay....I just put some out and she started eating it again.

It still seems like she is not with it visual like she should be.

Her and kid are still separated. Not sure what to do for the kid if she wont take the bottle. She keeps crying out. She will be 6 weeks this tues.

Thank you babsbag, I try! Sad to watch her be like that. I am just using vit b complex.

Thank you all for all the help, it does seem to be working!
 

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arabianequine said:
20kidsonhill said:
If you aren't using a drenching syringe, it will help a lot with the liquid stuff.

http://www.jefferslivestock.com/feeding-syringes/camid/LIV/cp/0026479/
Yes I am but she still rears like and keeps whipping her head around etc.

She has been eating more hay....I just put some out and she started eating it again.

It still seems like she is not with it visual like she should be.

Her and kid are still separated. Not sure what to do for the kid if she wont take the bottle. She keeps crying out. She will be 6 weeks this tues.

Thank you babsbag, I try! Sad to watch her be like that. I am just using vit b complex.

Thank you all for all the help, it does seem to be working!
does the kid eat grain? Hay? have any alfalfa hay for the kid? at 6 weeks if he/she is used to grain I would just wean. Or just put with mom one time a day for 10 minutes or so.
 
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