Farmerjan's journal - Weather

[greybeard]

So, I explained that the engineers, have actually inserted Glyphosate into the DNA of the plants, so they are resistant to having Glyphosate sprayed on them to keep weeds down, the farmer doesn’t have to worry about weeds getting into their crops. So, when you eat GMO food, you are not only eating the Glyphosate, that was sprayed on the food, but you are eating the Glyphosate in the DNA.

This, is absolutely NOT true. There is NO glyphosate "inserted' into "the DNA" of roundup ready seeds or plants on the molecular level when creating GMO roundup ready seeds. It's simply an often repeated fabrication but the way it is done, is by genetically expressing an enzyme. The naturally occuring enzyme is obtained from Agrobacterium sp. strain CP4. Once incorporated into the plant genome, the gene product, CP4 EPSP synthase, confers crop resistance to glyphosate.
https://www.pnas.org/content/103/35/13010

Can glyphosate be present in Roundup ready foods? Yes, but it only happens when they are sprayed with glyphosate, not due to an intentional genetic coding when the roundup ready seeds are made.

 

[Senile_Texas_Aggie]

This, is absolutely NOT true.

Mr. @greybeard, sir, thank you for setting us straight. When I read the original post, I thought that didn't sound right, but I didn't say anything, because I haven't learned that much about GMOs. I am now glad to know that in this case my limited understanding is correct.

Senile Texas Aggie

 

[Rammy]

I think @Devonviolet explained it better.

 

[goatgurl]

I guess i'm kinda funny this way but whether an enzyme allows plants to tolerate roundup better or not doesn't make a lot of difference to me. I don't want the roundup sprayed on the food I eat. and for the sake of argument I am fully aware that there is no way to live and eat day to day and not come in contact with roundup ready food but anything I can do to lessen the exposure is a good thing to me.

 

[greybeard]

I think @Devonviolet explained it better.

She said that glyphosate has been genetically inserted into gmo seeds and plants.

So, I explained that the engineers, have actually inserted Glyphosate into the DNA of the plants

It has not been, nor it can be. If it were even possible, the plant would die as soon as it germinated, IF, it even germinated.


Glyphosate "resistance" has been genetically inserted into gmo seeds and plants by the method explained in the link I provided.
Where does this mis-information come from?
Paragraphs such as this:
"Photodegrades in water under natural conditions, DT50 <28 d. Strongly immobilized in soil and retained in top 15 cm, with DT50 in soil 3-174 d, depending on conditions. Major degradation product in soil, water, and plants is aminomethylphosponic acid, which is itself strongly adsorbed by soil and biodegradeable. In recent years, glyphosate resistance has been genetically introduced into a number of agricultural plants, among them corn and soybeans, producing "Roundup-ready" varieties that can withstand post-emergence treatment of fields with glyphosate to kill weeds.
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People read right past the word "resistance" and think "OH..they (Monsanto) introduced glyphosate right into agricultural plants and seed!!"

They did not.

You can find that paragraph here under the "Environmental Fate" heading:
https://virtual-museum.soils.wisc.edu/display/glyphosate/
This is not like a disease where you can inoculate or vaccinate a plant with a little of the herbicide and the plant (or it's seed) receive immunity from the herbicide.

I am no fan of Monsanto at all for a variety of reasons, and I never use roundup or any of it's generics on or anywhere near any human food plants or animal forage, but I do use it sparingly on my driveway and around the edge of my home to keep from weedeating.

 

[Wehner Homestead]

@farmerjan im now following your journal! Took me a bit to catch up but I’m there now!

 

[greybeard]

Everybody North and East of me tighten em a little tighter. Here it comes and this one stretches up from the Rio Grade thru Indiana moving EastNorthEast. Pouring down right now and wind gusts to 25.

 

[Baymule]

We got pounded last night.

@greybeard you are right about the sharecroppers. My father's father was a sharecropper, poor all his short life and never owned anything. My parents bought Daddy's mother a house, when she died, the siblings were fighting over it and Mom and Dad backed out and let them have at it. My Daddy never finished school, his father kept taking him out of school to work the fields for 50 cents a day. They chopped weeds with a hoe from can 'till can't.

 

[greybeard]

In the mid 30s, as a teenager, my father first sharecropped then bought some land that is now under Lake Fork. His entire family would migrate out to the Sweetwater/Nolan County area to pick dry land cotton for several years.

 

[farmerjan]

Thanks for the warning @greybeard ; they have been saying for 2 days that we would maybe get a little winter mix this morning, changing to all rain and steady rain into tonight and tomorrow morning. Temps got down to 31 last night, up to 38 already and supposed to get into the upper 40's. Saying 1-2 inches which will be real delightful on top of the ground that for 2 nights was froze with the temps that were 10 and 12....
There are already flooding warnings for areas along the low spots and rivers because it is going to just run off the ground.

Never seen anything like this crazy weather. I can imagine my son will be out again tonight if it does what they say because there will be "mud slides" with the water just thawing the ground enough for it to wash down the hillsides into the roads. No nothing like California, but we get enough that with our winding roads and hills, that we get washouts.

We did some pregnancy checks and didn't have a very good outcome. The first calf heifers were mostly all open, and they are a little thin. This wet "washy" grass all summer just went through them. All the calves will be weaned this weekend. Didn't want to do it with the pouring rain coming... they would stand around getting soaked just bawling and catch pneumonia in a heartbeat. So after it clears off, got someone wanting to look at heifers, they want 10 or so, and then calves will come off this weekend. We will wean them for them, but the cows aren't making much milk anyway so shouldn't be a big deal. They are all in the barn eating out of the bunk so they won't go through a big "shock" or change of feed. We will be moving all the pregnant ones out back to the far pasture, they mostly all aren't due until April, and the opens will go back with a bull. The cull cow market here is DISMAL... a friend took 2 to market a week ago. $.12/lb. for one, and they called him to come back and get the other. She was thin, but no bids. Heard there were about 6-8 that there were no bids on. Had a dairy farmer take one in 3 weeks ago and she was in good flesh, open forever, and got less than a $200. check for her. Normally would have brought about $600 to 750.. We have 2 open old cows that I am seriously thinking about just making into hamburger. Weren't planning to rebreed them anyway.
Maybe I will call the guy who made my beef up into the hotdogs, bologna, snack sticks, chipped beef, and such. Get them made into stuff we can eat and not bother take them to market.
It's really terrible.